The Stovebolt Site Forums The Shop Area General Truck Talk Main difference with the 1950, 51 and 52 bodies

I was browsing through Dynacorn's web site and saw that they finally released the complete body for the 48-50 and 52-54 stovebolt. I have a 51.

I'm wondering what the main differences between these bodies are and if I were to purchase one, what the best direction to go would be.

The '48-50 have a vent in the left side cowl. There were also some structural and mounting differences between them and the later cabs.

The '51-53 cabs are identical. The '54 cab has a one piece windshield and a different dashboard

MiniD,

WOW....$9000 clams!! I wonder if you get a glove box door too?

Stuart

These Dynacorn bodies are a disgrace, Being built in China to avoid US patent laws. The whole fun in the hobby is finding a good project and restoring it and keeping one more peice of AMERICAN made iron on the road for others to enjoy. Not ones ability to shell out chunk of change on the table and recieve a Chinese made Chevy in a box to put together and call a restoration. These are harmful to the hobby, as people will try selling this garbage as the real thing, and eventually the values will crash.

Thanks for the lecture!

plus $300.00 shipping.

The doors must be the reason 1951 is not listed.Will 1951 door handles fit 1952-1953 doors ?

Bowtie tim,
If you mean the outside door handles, no. The '51 has the crank down type like the '47-'50. '52 and '53 have push button type. I think the inside ones are interchangeable, although some years had metal knobs and some years the plastic-like ones.

Rodney,
Couldn't agree with you more. Kinda like the guys who buy a new kit car and call it a street rod. I was at a show a couple years ago and the people puting on the show decided which class you should be in (guess they knew more about my truck than I did!). Anyway, they put my '49 in the streetrod class. A guy came up and started jumping all over me "'cause a '49 ain't a streeetrod"! I asked which one was his. He said his was the some 30's model Studebaker pickup. So I casually said, "Oh, the kit car." He didn't say another word, just walked off. The guy next to me was laughing and I sid to him, loud enough for the kit car guy to hear, that at least mine was the real thing. Not some new one bing passed off as an old one.

I'm not going to knock on the side of a rusted 51 and pretend it's better than one of these bodies without rust. I could save it, but I'd be using chinese parts to do it anyway. It's a wash there.

I have a 66 chevelle that was saved from the scrap yards with $18k in body work. Most of that steel came from china. There's nobody in the U.S. making replacements and some parts just rust on all vehicles after 50 years.

Everyone one of my cars will be a solid rust-free driver when I'm done with it. Some will be more original than others. I won't care one darn about that because I bought the car for the styling and simplicity, not because it strokes my ego.

$9,000 for the body! Now I don't feel so bad with the 15K to rehab and paint mine. I must admit that there are probably a couple of cowl panels and an entire floor that came off a Chinese assembly line. But the rest is American steel - although a bit thinner than original.

Most companies charge "what the market can stand" so if those of you who have deep pockets would you hold off buying one for a while so the "market price" will come down to where us po folks can afford one .....if I ever do!!! But then I never did like paying a dollar for a nickel's worth of anything. There are some things I just can't do.

Their not selling you a body, its a cab only. You get no doors, fenders, or hood. Mostly anything orignal you have wont fit this cab with alot of playing around, drilling hole, and make parts work with the new stuff. For what there asking, any body shop could fix your orginal cab, and paint all the your other sheet metal, and you may still have some money left over for some of the other parts you want. Now that we're at this stage in the game, we can tell you excatly how much it would cost you go all the way down and back. I quess a person would just have to decide what you want to end with. I think until that cab gets down to around 4 grand we can still bring a bad one back cheaper.

If they are built in China they can keep em. Rodney and Pablos are right.Kit cars first and now kit trucks...sad, sad, sad. the old fashioned way is to get em outta the boneyard and revive em piece by piece....
I love street rods! But the kit cars make me puke.
Where will the BS end...

I personaly have little respect for anyone that buys a truck that was not restored by the person that owns it.Don't get me wrong,I understand that many people don't want to take the time that it takes for a full restoration.(My 53 3100 12 years). With that being said, when a person buys a finished truck (much less a trailer queen)they have no respect of what the builder of a quality project has gone thru to bring back a part of history especialy if it was kept all origional. And please don't get me started on car clubs that show "trailered queens" and attend with a "you vote for me I'll vote for you" what a disgrace to an orginazion and the orginaziers that allow it.

There is no shortage of podiums over here, I see.

wow! my answer too getting thinner, turn chinese!

I've built about 30 antique vehicles from scratch, does that mean if I'm too old now ,and the next one I get is already restored, I get no respect?If I put anything other than a factory sunvisor(Fultons aren't stock),then my truck is garbage?If some of the sheet metal pieces I use come from the roof of a 56 Nomad to fill in rust on my truck, the same answer.What makes a vehicle matching #'s any way? As soon as you change the original starter,generator, trany,tires battery,etc. I wouldn't call it a matching #'s vehicle.Unless you can find a vehicle with 5,000 original miles and you rebuid that battery with factory parts, the vehicle just ain't pure any more, sorry!!! Personally ,I don't care what any body else did to aquire their love. As long as they are happy with it and I'm happy with my "BIG GIANT SHELF",that's all that should matter.I only have problem with people that judge me on what I drive.Come on some of you guys what ever happened to live and let live, Xmas is coming .I know for some people this time of year is depressing ,but let the others enjoy it while they can.

Hmmmm...
I just do and buy what I can afford. 9K is too steep for me. Could buy a nice, clean, driver for that. Seems there is still a lot of 1K, 2K pickups out there that are rebuildable. I think places like Southern that are going to sell new (AD style) trucks need to start with these new cabs for production. They are not for the low buck hoddy guy that just wants to rebuild old trucks. I'm with robin58, I have no problem with new cabs/chassis as long as they are labeled what they are, "kit car" sounds a little cheesy, but I guess they are. But again I'm not telling anyone I have "kit car" parts on my truck.

Nevermind Buddy

9000 dollars for a cab when you can get a nice running one is bad economics too. Heck this truck hobby is expensive enough without adding a car note to it.
If a guy buys a truck already done- well thats ok with me-I dont see that any different than buying his daily driver, but 9 large for a chinese cab? If someone has that kind of scratch in the bank they need to hang with me!
Them southern trucks coming out go for like 40-50 large. Not a bad lookin ride either- but not for me- too much money- but if sales pick up and the new owners wreck em we may find one in a boneyard with all that nice new drivetrain and stuff on it...Hmmm now that sounds good....

Is there any links to this truck cabs site? And do they paint em for ya? Seems like you'd still have to take it to the body shop to primer, paint and then mount on frame...

If it wasn't for China turning out cheap steel, many of the older vehicles on the road would be along side of the road without replacement parts.

If all of these parts were made in America, your truck, when finished, would be Barret-Jackson priced.

Better deal here


Includes all glass and trim, as well as dash and guages etc...

I could go on and on on this subject. The couple problems I have with someone buying one already done is that most of them have no respect (for want of a better word) for the car or truck. Prime example is a Mustang I saw. The vanity license plate read "R 401K". I thought "How sad! It's nothing to him but an investment." The other is most "Buyers" look down thier noses bigtime at the guy who builds it himself- the "Builder"! Without us, where would they be?! You see who they turn to when something konks out on them.

I have been to many car shows etc and watched the trailer queens come out of the trailer. If the guy did it himself then its his choice to ride it than drive it. I can deal with that. The ones that get me are the deep pocket guys, and we have some around my neck of the woods, that BUY it then talk about it like they did it. I had much rather talk and spend time with the guy that still has grease under his finger nails parked next to me. He gets my respect and although his truck/car may not be a "best of show" he is definitely just as proud of his accomplishments...and I'm proud of him to.

I know this might be a bit off topic but it does refer to kit cars or the new kit trucks. In this province the special vehicle groups are lobbying the government run insurance company to let kit cars be classed as collectors and get the very inexpensive insurance. The big stipulation for getting any collector insurance here is that the vehicle has to be mint. My 49 has its share of paint blemishes and chips and to me its a classic. But because of its scars the government will not accept it in the collector classification but on the other hand if the 2006 built 1932 Fords with SBCs and fiberglass bodies can be called collectors why can't mine.

I don't know about the rest of you but if I had the money, I would buy every vehicle instead of building them. Of course they would be to my liking or built to my spec.s and I would stay away from the "wanna-be's" like the Southern, but I don't see how we can build our trucks without the aftermarket parts. I would rather polish a finished product than grind the rust off of what's available in my area.
Just my 2 cents worth,
Scott

here is a site that list the difference in the cabs vehicle identification

It looks to me that the Dynacorn bodies are officially licensed by GM. If these folks are getting a license from the manufacturer, is that some sort of "stamp of approval?"

I have no problem with there being a $9000 copy cab available. I don't see how it would lower a truck's value because they can't saturate the market with them. (They won't even release a '57 Bel-Air convertible copy stating that the market won't bear it!) Offer the 9 grand cab: a few will buy and build trucks with $50,000 price tags. You won't see a truck that has a copy cab selling for less than $9000, in effect, setting a floor price. Ain't no problem to me.

Whether or not it is "honorable" to take this route is up to the individual.

"Two-cent" Bill

Thanks... that's exactly what I was looking for.

Dave

WOW thats more than I plan on spending on all my paint and body work. Guess its nice if you got the bucks, but I like working on mine and my labor is cheap...lol!

Tap..... Tap...... Is this thing on..?
"officially licensed by GM only" applies to items or parts with GM logos and trademarks
And yes there are some venders that produce US made Sheet metal (ask me I know) not full cabs mind you but solid replacement sections.

Ditto Achipmunk.Problem is most of the trailer queens were bought and proably redone by pro's. I know it takes me and all you others a while to get your truck's and car's show ready, but when you hear these club guys talk about which vihicle they will bring to next weeks show most of the time means they were bought and not redone by them personally. Should be class for trailer queens vs drivers. Signed; a guy that spent 12 years in restoration and can't win because of the clubs "you vote for me, I vote for you's) and my 53 3100 ain't that shabby by anyone's standard.

Wow... how this turned into a show trucks *****ing session is completely beyond me. Talk about sour grapes.

Sorry guys... I'm not out for a show rig. I'm not out to prove how much better my truck is than someone else's. I just want something that I know is solid and rust free. I'll put the darn thing together myself... but I'm not about to sand blast, cut and weld on the entire cab of my truck just so I can pretend there's something better about the way I do things.

There's just way too much preaching and *****ing going on given the simplicity of the question that started this thread.

Just my five cents...
Someone posted a link to a new 53 style truck which looked great. Every truck has its own history. If you built it or you earnt it, it gives you a love for that vehicle. Who cares what other people think! I once posted a gripe about buy American and get Made in China. However the badge looks great for the price. I myself couldn't afford the $9K price tag, and if i couldn't rebuild it for less than that i'd find a better one. This site is for restorers, rodders and enthusiasts, so we'll never agree. That's what i call an objective audience.
Cheers
Brendon

MiniD,hey man its your money,buy whatever makes you happy.I was just down at the hotrod shop today looking at a 1934 Ford coupe fiberglass body.If I had the money I would buy it and build one sweet hotrod.When they are built right they are worth just as much as an original steel bodied coupe.In other words GO FOR IT.

the choice is yours but what ever you do.........

just drive em...........

MiniD, I'm with you, it's your money, it's your truck, and if you can live with it that's your choice. The question was what is the diffrence in the 51 body from the others. So don't hijack someone's post to get up on your soapbox. You chose how you built your truck and so can everyone else!!!!

A Very Merry Christmas to all

MiniD started the thread, '41. Are you giving him road rash for hijacking his own post?

Not at all, he asked a question about the differences in a 51 and other yrs, not for an opinion on a after market sheetmetal. But what ever blows your skirt up I guess. :confused: