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#65714 09/14/2006 7:11 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 197 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 197 | I just finished painting my 228 this past Saturday. I used some soft foam rubber to fill the holes I didn't want to get paint into, such as the intake/exhaust ports, distributor mounting hole and fuel pump mounting hole. I made the mistake of using two small pieces for the fuel pump hole and when I removed one piece the other piece fell inside. I can't see the piece but I would guess that it's sitting in the bottom of the oil pan. My instinct is to try to get it out, hopefully without dropping the pan. I'll do that if I have to, though. My question is what do you think would happen if it was left in there? The engine is on a stand right now, so accessibility is not much of a problem. I'm thinking my best bet would be to try to fish it out through the fuel pump hole.
Neil
1940 GMC 1/2 Ton
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#65715 09/14/2006 7:27 PM | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 586 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 586 | You got to get it out!!You can not leave it there!!Try to fish it out with a reshaped coat hanger and a small light.Pull the pan if need be.Good Luck!!!!!!
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#65716 09/14/2006 7:31 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | 3 Girls' Dad,
The amount of energy you expend on your fishing trip would depend on how large the piece is.
Any oil that circulates through the system must first pass through the pickup screen.
The foam rubber would be consumed by the system in a very short time...beat to death and eaten by the heat, acids and motor oil.
Stuart | | |
#65717 09/14/2006 8:39 PM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,756 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,756 | Could be disolved with a gal of thinner or somthing. If you just poured it in the pan and didn't circulated it any then drained it but I really think stuart is right. just run it. and drain it. | | |
#65718 09/14/2006 9:01 PM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | you might feel better if you just removed the pan.. being that it is on the stand and not installed..
if it was metal, I would be more concerned but still. you might sleep better if you had it out..
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#65719 09/14/2006 9:10 PM | Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 687 | Get it out! The foam wont bang around and mess things up but it can stop up the oil pump screen and that ain't good.
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#65720 09/14/2006 9:16 PM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,096 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,096 | Have you tryed testing the foam piece that did not fall in , to see if it will disolve in oil?
I think pulling it out is safest. | | |
#65721 09/14/2006 9:48 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 92 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 92 | If you can see it, shoot it with some brake cleaner, it dissolves anything "foam",
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#65722 09/15/2006 3:45 AM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | if it can be washed into the pan then try that. Once in the pan pull the plug out and let whatever you used to wash it down (kerosene etc) float it to the drain plug opening. Then use some needle nose pliers or something and try catch it. TIP: when going to the dentist I asked him to save me some of his "tools". On a subsequent visit he gave me a big handful of little gadgets and gizmo's that I use a lot to pull things from o'rings to picking out fuel jets. They are handy to have around. | | |
#65723 09/15/2006 3:52 AM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | This little itty bitty soft cozy piece of foam..much softer than a crank throw or a piston skirt is causing much ado! Here is the ultimate answer. Dump a quart of gasoline into the pan followed by a match. If the poor old foam makes it through that, it deserves to live!  Pyro-Stu | | |
#65724 09/15/2006 5:36 AM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 145 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 145 | Originally posted by atomarc: Dump a quart of gasoline into the pan followed by a match. If the poor old foam makes it through that, it deserves to live!
Pyro-Stu Before you put the match in...remove the drain plug...that will blow the foam out for sure. Just teasin'. Good luck with your decision Thruwurkin
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#65725 09/15/2006 6:35 AM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 197 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 197 | Update: I GOT IT!!! But you might have to start calling me MacGyver! I took the fuel pump off thinking I'd just take a look and see if I could even get to the offending piece of foam. Much to my surprise, it was in the oil pan (no oil in it yet) sitting up against the baffle in plain sight. So I took the top half of a fishing pole, taped a jig hook to it and started fishing. After a couple of tries I managed to get the hook just barely in it and pulled it up. The whole time it was jiggling and shaking and I was sure I'd lose it and it would end up in a place where I couldn't get to it. But the hook held just enough to let me trap it with a finger and pull it out. What a relief. The can of gas was sitting there, waiting its turn.
Thanks guys for all the imput and encouragement.
Neil
1940 GMC 1/2 Ton
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#65726 09/15/2006 4:56 PM | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 586 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 586 | Even I feel better now.Good Job!
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#65727 09/15/2006 5:44 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 345 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 345 | I love it when the fish doesn't get away. | | |
#65728 09/15/2006 8:29 PM | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | Have none of you guys heard of mechanical fingers? | | |
#65729 09/15/2006 10:26 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 197 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 197 | Hey Cletis,
Yeah, sure, I just don't have one of those little grabber-thingys. I tell you, though, I think that's one tool I'm going to go out an buy. I thought of it but opted for "the hook".
Thanks.
Neil
1940 GMC 1/2 Ton
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