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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,781 Posts1,039,301 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 | Any suggestions to help me paint my engine while it's in the truck? Sittin' on the garage floor - no lift, no stands. '54 235 4-speed
I ordered rattle can and brush-on dark grey engine paint from The Filling Station. I'll prime and wet sand the valve cover and pushrod cover. Any reason to prime the block? If so, with what? I'll brush the block to avoid over spray.
I Gunked it this morning. I'll clean it a couple of more times. What do you suggest to clean it?
Gonna try to paint it without removing the radiator unless I find that I need to when I replace the water pump. Or do you think that I should just go ahead and take it out?
Is it possible to paint the bell housing / clutch housing? Looks kinda tight.
I'll paint the valve cover, push rod cover, water pump (replacing), filler necks, and possibly the timing cover off of the engine. Remove wires, plugs, gen, hoses, fuel & vac lines, and road draft tube, to get out of the way.
I'm tempted to drop the oil pan and paint off the truck, but I'm afraid of what I'll find.
Thanks,
- Lonnie My '54 3104Photos that I have shared on Stovebolt via PhotoBucket are no longer available. Please contact me if you want a photo from an old post. lonniecook [at] aol [dot] com. I sold my '54 3104 12/12/2017, but I still visit Stovebolt. OLD STUFF ... houses, furniture, cars, wine ... I love it all | | | | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 | I would not pull the motor to paint, just mask off all other areas etc. Would paint the pan in place, timing cover as well. You could check with a paint store for a cleaner or something like lacquer thinner should work. | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,107 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,107 | i found it very tedious and less satisfying leaving the engine in to paint it. what i found to be easier and somewhat satisfying is to paint everything but the block and the head but clean the block and head up the best you can. removing all the bolt on stuff and painting then bolting it back to shows that maintenance is being performed and paint is a form of maintenance. the best way is to have the engine out to be totally satisfied with the results. | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 | I would pressure wash it. | | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 | Thanks for your input and experiences - Pulling the engine is not an option. "Boltr#43" - I'll paint the pan and timing cover in place. (Originally thought the timing cover was an easy removal) "51 aston" - Yes, this is gonna be a tedius job! I'll remove everything that I can before painting the block. "Builder" - I agree about pressure washing, but my pressure washer died last year. I Gunked it yesterday. Used a $7 siphon engine cleaner from HF to cover everything with Gunk. Did a good job of getting it in crevaces and tight places. But "blasts away dirt, grease, and grime" is an exaggeration!. Standard water hose pressure cleaned it up pretty well. I'll Gunk it again and maybe borrow a pressure washer. Spot clean with acetone as needed. Luckily, the engine and frame were fairly clean to start with. The "while-you're-at-it" syndrome is starting to kick in. I may scuff sand and paint the inner fenders, too.
- Lonnie My '54 3104Photos that I have shared on Stovebolt via PhotoBucket are no longer available. Please contact me if you want a photo from an old post. lonniecook [at] aol [dot] com. I sold my '54 3104 12/12/2017, but I still visit Stovebolt. OLD STUFF ... houses, furniture, cars, wine ... I love it all | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 | I've had good luck using Simple Green and a couple stiff scrub brushes. Wet things down, then spray with the Simple Green and start scrubbing. Have a bucket with water and Simple Green mixed to clean the brushes. Rinse and repeat a few times. If you have air it works good to blow it dry, then you can see if you missed anything. Once I get things clean and ready to paint I take a clean rag and soak it with lacquer thinner and wipe it good. Once it's dry paint away. Good prep work pays off with a good finish and one that won't flake off. Don | | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 | I finished painting my engine and engine bay with the engine in the truck. Not a speedy task. Seemed like I would spend a couple of hours masking, then paint for a few minutes. I removed most of the parts to clean and paint off of the engine. Didn't remove the carb or lines because I didn't want to create leaks. Thanks to DavidF for the aluminium foil masking tip in another thread. I used almost three rattle cans and a quarter of a pint of brush-on of Filling Station engine paint. I found some areas on the engine that I missed. Can't touch them up now - already getting oil on them from oozing valve cover etc. I thought that I had the job planned out pretty well, but I ended up masking and painting multiple times in the same areas. Suggest painting the frame areas first, then the engine, and the inner fenders last. (I painted the engine first.) Used Calyx on the rusty exhaust manifold. Looks great and was simple to use. Also used it on accelerator, brake, and clutch springs. Here are the paints that I used: ITEM / / BRAND / / PART # / / DESCRIPTION / / SHEEN / COLOR (Notes)Engine / / Filling Station / / FS-359 & FS-119P / / Engine Enamel / / Dark Gray Generator / / Dupli-Color / / DE1635 / / Engine Enamel / / Ford Semi Gloss Black Starter / / Dupli-Color / / DE1635 / / Engine Enamel / / Ford Semi Gloss Black Generator Brackets / / Dupli-Color / / DE1635 / / Engine Enamel / / Ford Semi Gloss Black Starter Rods / / Dupli-Color / / DE1635 / / Engine Enamel / / Ford Semi Gloss Black Heater Hose Bracket / / Rustoleum / / 7798830 / / Protective Enamel / / Semi Gloss Black Frame / / Rustoleum / / 7777830 & 7777502 / / Protective Enamel / / Satin Black Steering Box / / Dupli-Color / / DE1651 / / Engine Enamel / / Cast Coat Iron Inner Fenders / / Rustoleum / / 7777830 / / Protective Enamel / / Satin Black Headlight Buckets / / Rustoleum / / 209584 / / Automotive Aerosol / / Semi-Gloss Black Headlight Inner Bucket / / a coat of Rustolium aluminum and a mist of Rustoleum Galvanized Fan / / Rustoleum / / 209584 / / Automotive Aerosol / / Semi-Gloss Black Air Cleaner / / Rustoleum / / 209584 / / Automotive Aerosol / / Semi-Gloss Black Coil Bracket / / Rustoleum / / 257884 / / Automotive Enamel / / Gloss Clear Coil / / Dupli-Color / / DE1635 / / Engine Enamel / / Ford Semi Gloss Black Radiator / / Rustoleum / / 7798830 / / Protective Enamel / / Semi Gloss Black (Similar to Auto Semi, I had more Protect available)Steering Column / / Dupli-Color / / DE1634 / / Engine Enamel / / GM/CHRY Low Gloss Black Flat, slight grey tint - similar to column inside cab)Pic 1Pic 2Pic 3Pic 4Pic 5Pic 6I posted the results of painting the frame and inner fenders in another thread.Thanks for your help in pointing me in the right direction.
- Lonnie My '54 3104Photos that I have shared on Stovebolt via PhotoBucket are no longer available. Please contact me if you want a photo from an old post. lonniecook [at] aol [dot] com. I sold my '54 3104 12/12/2017, but I still visit Stovebolt. OLD STUFF ... houses, furniture, cars, wine ... I love it all | | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 | Great looking job Lonnie, thanks for sharing it with everyone. | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Lonnie, you are an inspiration. Nice job, and thanks for the information and instructions.
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 253 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 253 | I painted my motor out of the truck and it does not hold a candle to yours Lonnie !
-Mike-
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| | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 300 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 300 | is that the color paint from filling station i just got my can from them and i started to paint my engine my can of gray looks almost black it seems to dark | | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 | Keith - Yes - the paint on my engine is from The Filling Station. I felt the same way when I sprayed the first item. It seemed way too dark ... almost a charcoal grey. I'm used to it now and it doesn't seem so dark. The contrast between the grey engine and the black inner fenders may make the grey paint appear lighter than when viewed by itself out of the engine bay. The photos were shot with flash, plus I PhotoShopped them a little, so they may appear a little lighter grey than they actually are. I'm happy with the color of my engine, but I could have been equally happy with a little lighter shade of grey. Tim Lederman's recent reply showed the "controversy" over the right shade of paint for Stovebolt truck engines.
- Lonnie My '54 3104Photos that I have shared on Stovebolt via PhotoBucket are no longer available. Please contact me if you want a photo from an old post. lonniecook [at] aol [dot] com. I sold my '54 3104 12/12/2017, but I still visit Stovebolt. OLD STUFF ... houses, furniture, cars, wine ... I love it all | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 | After reading the post by Tim about the fervent followers of the faithful paint I realize I am a godless pagan who will no doubt be responsible for the west coast tsunami when it finally arrives due to my use of Orange and Black engine scheme :mad: 
Give me ambiguity or give me something else
| | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Ignore the fervent followers. Especially when they say they know theirs in the one and true way.
In fact, orange and black do look like pagan colors? Some of my best friends are pagan (some have interesting-colored engines).
| | | | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 640 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 640 | Hey Tim, can't we be both fervent followers AND pagan?
Great job on the engine, Lonnie!! | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 687 | Excellent Lonnie. Thanks so much for sharing. | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,554 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,554 | Wow,looks really nice !!!
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