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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | those are called clutch head screws. You can get a set of 3 or 4 of them at some part houses. Even Lowe's or Home Depot have them at some stores. I suggest also trying Ace Hardware.
Most parts vendor's have them for around #20 bucks for a set. Just as a tip.....if you round the head of them out you can stand a washer up on them, weld the washer, then twist them out. Those Clutch heads were used on trucks for years. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 400 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 400 | I used a standard flat-tipped screwdriver to get mine out,I just got lucky that they were'nt stuck in rust or to tight. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | PapaJ beat me to it. You can use a flat blade screwdriver if necessary.
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,783 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,783 | Another trick is to use a cutoff wheel on a Dremel tool, and create a flat-tip slot in the screw head. Just be sure to create a tight-fitting slot for a fairly large screwdriver blade. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | Sure, all you need to work on an old truck is a hammer, screwdriver, pair of water pump pliers and a bigger hammer.
Not.
The proper tools are readily available. Why not use them? No sense in buggering up the original fasteners. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,783 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,783 | I've got a full set of clutch-head drivers. I just use the Dremel trick after some dummy with a flat-tip driver has buggered the head where nothing fits and I have to replace the screw anyway! Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | OR it could be that I've never "buggered" up a clutch head screw using a flat blade screwdriver and I see no reason to spend hard earned money on a tool I don't need.  I have one clutch head screwdriver I bought when I was a lad, first getting into body work and hadn't yet discovered that they aren't necessary. I don't think I've used it in 40 years. A flat blade works just fine.
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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | .... well, between the 37 and on the 52 I have had to use practically every way mentioned..  ....but mostly due to someone else not using THEIR brain!! LOL | | | | | | Oldog in Md. Unregistered | | Oldog in Md. Unregistered | Before I found a set at a Carisle tool booth I used a wood router bit welded to an old nut driver | | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 21 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 21 | I got some clutch head tips and have used them with an impact driver along with penetrating oil and heat. I have drilled out quit a few over the years. I like to replace them with stainless steel Phillip screws, looks good and easy to work with. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,596 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,596 | Having removed lots of these over the years a couple more tips. 1. Can of PB blaster a day ahead of time if possible. 2. Tighten it a bit before you try to loosen it. You would be surprised on most bolts and screws how well this works not a bunch just give it a nudge to loosen the crud in the thread paths. The other tips listed here work also as often you will find them in rough shape to begin with. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 21 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 21 | So, What is a Stove bolt? | | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | A stove bolt is a pan head screw with a slotted head. They were used on the side covers and oilpans of Chevy engines for years, hence the nick name, Stovebolt Six. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | round head, slotted, stove bolt flat head, slotted, stove bolt pan head, slotted, bolt The name "stove bolt" now seems to mean any machine screw. I have found both round head and pan head 1/4" diameter x 20 thread, 1/2" long machine screws (1/4-20 X 1/2") used to attach sheet metal on 216/235/261 engines. In the mid 1950s, it seems that hex-head machine screws, with and without a flat, Phillips-head center, became more commonly used on pans and side covers. Maybe someone with a first-generation stove bolt engine will let us know if their screws are round headed or pan headed? | | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,987 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,987 | Tim, instead of the pan head, you showed the flat head twice. (I know what it looks like, but just in case someone doesn't.) | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Thanks, Rich
I've corrected the link.
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,440 Bolter | | Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,440 | Could it be that the term "Stovebolt" comes from the bolts used to manufacture the oldtime cast iron stoves? Just asking!
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Martin, You are correct. And, they were slotted round-head bolts. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,783 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,783 | Bolting was the most efficient way to assemble the cast iron parts of a wood stove. Welding the castings together was nearly impossible, and the sand-casting methods available at the time were not accurate enough to allow parts to be snapped together into a sturdy assembly. The combination of a round-headed machine screw and a square nut was cheap, and easily tightened with common household tools like a flat-blade screwdriver and pliers, or even a table knife in a pinch. The term "stove bolt" got applied to round-headed machine screws with a coarse thread, like 3/16" or 1/4" screws. When Chevy started attaching sheet metal parts to their engines with slotted-head 1/4" screws, the "stovebolt" name was a natural fit. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 493 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 493 | I purchased the bits from one of the vendors. I put the bit in my cordless drill and turned the torque setting down until it acted like a hammer and backed out all of the clutch heads on the inside of the cab. I would have bet that several would have had to be drilled out, but they all came out just fine. | | | | | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 190 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 190 | I got a set of the screw drivers at a good price from Jim Carter. Not as good as Snap on. But they work for me since most of my clutch heads screws seem to be in the interior cab. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,983 Master Gabster | | Master Gabster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,983 | My plan worked very well. I just cut them off with a grinder and replaced them with button head hex bolts. Unless you are trying to restore to original I wouldn't waste my time trying to unscrew an old rusted bolt. 
~Jim
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 493 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 493 | I just think they are cool. I will probably replace the fender to bed screws with something else. I am sure they aren't gonna come out without a fight. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Stainless-steel rear-fender-to-bedside clutch-head screws are available from a few vendors. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,215 Moderator | | Moderator Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,215 | I just fastened my second fender yesterday with those SS clutch head screws. I have 3 sizes of clutch head drivers but they were all too small. I fabricated a bigger driver, worked very well. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Yes, those fender bolts and some door-latch bolts require the "4th" clutch-head driver that comes in some clutch-head drivers and bits sets.
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 2 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 2 | Finally- that's what it's called. Thanks Boys! I'm finding that 40years in a barn equals a lot of cut-off wheels! HAHAHA | | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | If you don't have a clutch head driver you can often substitute a flat blade screw driver.
Save a life, adopt a senior shelter pet. The three main causes of blindness: Cataracts, Politics, Religion. Name your dog Naked so you can walk Naked in the park.
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