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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | Lookin' good Willy, doesn't seem that long ago you were just having it shipped over! Good luck with the rest of the build and of course, keep us posted with plenty of pics. There cant be many Big Bolts in New Zealand,it'll be different for sure. 1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | Thanks Jock, I will be uploading more pics as I progress. There are not many Chev COE's in NZ we did get a lot of Thames trader and Commer COE's back in the fifties. Most of the American big trucks that came to NZ in the fifties were the conventional cabs and big army trucks. Some more came in via the American Deep Freeze Antartic base in Christchurch. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | Well after shipping the donor Duallie and COE cab home it is now full steam ahead on project '48 COE. Check out the pics of progress so far http://rides.webshots.com/album/573567191xiTfamWilly | | | | | Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 186 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 186 | lookin real good man, keep it up | | | | | Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 22 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 22 | I'll second that. Real cool... | | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 720 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 720 | Looks like some fun to me! It's a nice project. A few yearsback saw someone do a build with the same type of cab but they extended it and made it a crew cab. Definately different! Finding old bolts like that has to be a challenge in NZ, had a hard enough time finding decent parts for my early model Austin Mini when I was in Chrstschurch, cant imagine chasing down bits for one of those old beasts! 1956 GMC 370 dump " 'Tater "1970 VW Volksrod "the Black Bomber" 2007 Chevy Avalanche 2020 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk, 2005 Harley Davidson FLHTCUI I dig all cars, old and new, whether they were hammered out of American iron, German steel, or Japanese tin cans. Being unable to appreciate them all is missing out on a world of great things. But thats just MY opinion! :P
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | All the big bolts that came into NZ back in the 40's and 50's were conventional cab models, I don't know of any GM cab overs coming in but there were a lot of English Commer and Thames COE's. A lot of trucks came in through the Americans based at Christchurch for the Antartic Deep Freeze project. These trucks were allowed to retain their LHD steering whereas now any truck with a gvw of over 7715Lb MUST be converted to RHD. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 54 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 54 | Coming along nicely, looks good. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 51 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 51 | Looks like you are doing the same COE and Frame as I am doing. Mine started out as a standard frame dually but I had to lengthen it to fit the 454 big block and 4l80E tranny behind the cab and leave 15 inches for the drive line. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | just re-mounted the engine and trans 6" lower and further forward as well. Lower center of gravity should make the truck handle better.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 18 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 18 | Hi Willy,
Good project. Layout is well done. Cab, frame and driveline look good. Are you going to have any steering shaft issues, going from the steering box near straight up to the wheel in the COE?
I'd think you would still want power steering, will you need to change the steering box to get an upright input? I had something similar on a mid '80's Chevyvan. Hope you can still keep the LHD.
-Rick | | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | Hi Rick,
Steering may need some brainstorming as I have to convert the truck to RHD. The reason being that in NZ you can only get LHD exemptions for light vehicles (under 7700Lb)and as the donor duallie has a gvw of 10,OOOLb it must be converted.
If I can't find an upright input steering box the other option may be to use one of the late model Chev pickup steering universals that can go to 80deg but they are expensive US$380
Willy | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | Hi Willy,just another thought.....How are you going to convert the dash?? I do know the AD series trucks were built in RHD,maybe you could track one down,there is a South African built AD over(up?) here with factory RHD. So they are out there. A Schnapps company was using it as a promo vehicle,but unfortunately it is too good to cut up!  They never actually sold AD's here in 'Blighty' or else I would happily help you find one! 1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | Hi Jock, There are plenty of AD series trucks here in NZ both full size and pickups. I have got onto someone with a spare pickup cab that is parting it out but if that doesn't work out I will have to call on all my sheetmetal skills and convert it myself. I want to keep the dash layout as close to original as possable as opposed to customising it I love those art deco dashes. Just need to find some suburban rear fenders for the rear and that will be a LOT harder. At least I think they are suburban or panel fenders. Check out the pic below http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2885465480101009564hshAvYWilly | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | Hi Willy Now that's the way to turn up to a show! Not sure about the F*rd on it's back though!  Might have to substitute it with a 'little' 3100 AD!  The rear fenders do look like burb/panel ones as you say. I'm sure the guys here will be able to help,but you face the same problems as me....getting the dang things shipped! 1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | At least I think they are suburban or panel fenders. They look like panel or 'burb fenders to me.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | [quote=jockbolter50]Hi Willy Now that's the way to turn up to a show! Not sure about the F*rd on it's back though!  Seeing a Ford being towed or transported by a Chev must be good. Mind you it was probably a plastic replica '34 coupe not a real one | | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | Thanks to Stovebolt member Jay in CA I now have a pair of panel rear fenders on their way down under so I can finish off the bed on my truck. | | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 453 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 453 | You're a talented dude! Looks good. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | Thanks Ron, I would love to do this type of work full time. Rebuilding bigbolts that is. I have done a few pickups for other people but getting you teeth into something this big is GREAT.
There is an advertisement on TV here in NZ for a nationwide business similar to Home Depot and their motto is BIG IS GOOD I agree with that statement. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | I have managed to borrow a pair of Panel rear fenders off fellow Kiwi bolter Roger Kemp so that I can setup the mounting system for them while I wait for my fenders to arrive from California http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2629758860104889838hcLEFd | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | Willy...I just checked out your pics. I can't wait to see this truck when it's finished. If you keep going at the pace you are,it won't be long! Keep up the good work. Dont you just hate having to wait weeks for parts though? :mad: It's a bit like that here too....
1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | You can't wait to see it finished !!!!!! I can't wait to drive it.Progress may slow a little if my work gets any busier and also the truck will need some serious $$$ throwing at it in the not too distant future so that may slow it down a bit too. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | Lack of $$$$$$$...... ain't that always the problem!  1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | more progress shots on my COE. '48 panel rear fenders look the part fitted to the deck and yesterday I converted the dash from LHD to RHD as heavy vehicles in NZ are not allowed to be kept LHD. http://rides.webshots.com/album/573567191xiTfam?start=48 | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | Firstly...Happy Birthday Willy! You sure are a busy guy.... Did you just flip the speaker panel,if so don't all the ciggie butts fall out when you open the ashtray!  As usual,you're doing a great job. Keep up the good work,and I look forward to the next installment! Jock  1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,716 62401 | | 62401 Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,716 | Indeed! Many happy returns, Willy!! And good progress on your project. Thanks for the update! Jock -- No, they're upside down down there so it works -- the ciggie butts just fall back up right into place  John
~ John A kid raised on Hotwheels, Matchbox and Tonka cannot be reasonably expected to own only one vehicle as an adult. 1949 Chevrolet 3804In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum1973 IH 1310 Dump1963 Kaiser M38A12001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley) | | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 684 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 684 | Outstanding workmanship. Will the fender panels be removable for access to the the wheels? | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | Jock -- No, they're upside down down there so it works -- the ciggie butts just fall back up right into place  John Good point John!  1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | yep you guessed it...... DUH! lucky I don't smoke aye | | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | Outstanding workmanship. Will the fender panels be removable for access to the the wheels? Yep rear fenders are removeable but I should not have to remove them to take the rear wheels off. When the truck is jacked up to replace a rear wheel the rear axle will drop down far enough to remove the wheel. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 | That is a very nice looking piece of work Willy. I always admire good craftsmanship and you appear to have it.
One small thing I'd like to suggest if you'll allow me, is to mention that I see no gussets from the crossmembers to the longrail of your body. It appears to be aluminum tubing and the stress of a cars weight might very well cause cracking along the top of the longsill or up the side of the crossmember. It is considered a standard structural part on all such weldments. You may wish to consider adding them.
That in no way detracts from the really nice design and well thought out project. I love it. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | I presume you are talking about the rails under the new floor? They are made using what we call zintek which is a zinc coated steel. When I took the pics the floor was still not finished and since the pics were taken I have added gussets from the ends of the cross rails to the inner rocker/sill panels. I presume this is what you are talking about?
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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 | Yes, that is the area I was looking at. In the photos it looks like aluminum tubing but your zintec material should be even better. I have used similar material but am unfamiliar with that name. Does it require a zinc chromate primer? | | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | Yes, that is the area I was looking at. In the photos it looks like aluminum tubing but your zintec material should be even better. I have used similar material but am unfamiliar with that name. Does it require a zinc chromate primer? You can use a zinc chromate primer but any etch primer will do as good a job. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 140 | After a bit of a break including some fishing during the holidays check out the catch here http://travel.webshots.com/album/576168891XSQzMd?start=144It's back to work on the truck. Got the steering almost sorted and also the brakes. I'm using as much as I can from the donor duallie for the braking system but this required sideways mounting of the master cylinder on the firewall so I needed to design and make a right angle system. Seems to work Ok. http://rides.webshots.com/album/573567191xiTfam?start=60 | | |
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