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All the talk last few years on new one-piece wheels, and now I'm looking for some again myself. Anyone near IN have some to sell? One or more, tires or not? My old source has nuttin' and the yards here that I go to, say they never see them. I hate startin' over! Might be interested in some old style 8.25 x 20's for now too. I have 7.50, pretty hard to find them. Want to find them mounted with tires, not buy newer ones. Kind of a temp fix, as most of mine have rotted threads showing side walls now.

I'd like to get some radials, but I can't find the 19.5"ers anywhere, or I can't find em for less than about $600. I'll live with my cracked sidewall 6.5x20s for a while until I can find an affordable set of 7.0 or 7.5s

For 19.5s check tire dealers that deal with motor homes. They get real good used ones. These motor home owners want all new tires any time they have a slight problem. Also shops that do work for Frito-lay. They use a lot of tires that size.

I've noticed a lot of the mid range internationals now have 19.5 tires check more shops they should be stocking them now. Problem with the IHC trucks(Navistar) they are running 8 lug wheels

Have any of you guys tried Coker tire?

www.cokertire.com

Here's my warning that I give when this subject comes up. Find a wheel first and see if it fits over your rear drums. I tried this exact thing with my 48 1 1/2 ton and the wheels wouldn't fit mine. Try it before spending the money,
Scott

I can find 19.5" tires, its the 10 lug wheels I want and like scott says, you gotta make sure they fit over the drums, I don't see why they won't if 20 inch rims fit over the drums with room to spare. I have seen them on ebay, but I'm not gonna spend $600 bucks without a test fit.

Scott, you tried late model 19.5" 3500HD rims and they didn't fit over the rear drums? Do you have a 2 speed rear end?

I had them on my 54 two-ton. They had only about 1/2" or less clearance at the tightest spot. They fit the hubs right from 54 up too. Mine was single speed rear, think the 15" brakes? not sure on them. The earlier hubs are 1/4" smaller, so wheels are sloppy fit there. BUT, I'll either run that way or always wanted to see if shop guys could make a thin spacer ring to take up space, tack into the rim hole. Would need a lathe for sure. Only about 1/8" x thickness of rim, maybe another 1/8 or bigger, whew! Might not work. I wont' be loading mine much, so will ride on studs instead. I've seen even the older stock wheels used with-out fitting hubs on old farm trucks I have bought in past.

I have seen a hub spacer just as you describe when using the 19.5" wheels, would take some quality machine work to make them, I thought the lug nuts would seat it centered fairly well. I have a 2 speed rear in the 39, it is cable operated, but has the gearing normally associated with >=47 2 speed rear end, not <=46 gearing, I really want to test fit them.

4.3,
No, my truck isn't a 2 speed but the rear drums are ribbed or finned or whatever. I got the wheels off of a truck that burned and at that time they were only about a year old (nearly 7 years ago). They would start over the studs but that was about as far as they would go. I didn't want to try any modifications that would prevent me from returning them and getting my money back, so I returned them and dealt with my 20"ers. Hope you guys have better luck with yours,
Scott

right now I've got the 20' and bought some 8.25 got the first wheel broke down but the tire has grown to the metal so have to get that broke loose. been spraying PBBlaster but the rubber still tight.may try sawzall to get tire off to see if there is another lip inside. have the lock ring off and two crow bars holding two rim pieces apart.

you are a braver man than I

No air presure in the tire now will have them bound in chains when reassembly comes

Disassembling split rims is safe. Reinflation is where all sorts of hellish things can happen. Like anything else, it's a matter of using some common sense saftey precations. Being stupid around split rims is not a good idea for living a long life.

GL,

I sent you an email using the address in your profile. I may have the temporary wheels and tires you need.

BigMac

I think I can shed some light on the possible rim/drum clearance problems with tubeless tire rims. The 20" rims have straight centers because tube-type tires are installed with one rim side removed, then the split-rim flange is installed. Tubeless-tire rims need a drop center to allow the tire to be installed. I encountered this problem with a rear axle I installed on a Ford 1-ton from an early-model Chevy. The Ford used tubeless-type 16" tires, and the Chevy had 16" tube-type. The Ford wheels would not fit over the Chevy brake drums, so I wound up using tube-type rims on the inside, and tubeless outer wheels. It's very possible the newer rims you're having problems with are the result of the same type of brake drum mismatch I encountered.

BTW, the Ford is getting a Cummins turbo Diesel engine soon, and a New Process 4-speed transmission, so it's going to have a real identity crisis!
Jerry

"I can find 19.5" tires, its the 10 lug wheels I want and like scott says, you gotta make sure they fit over the drums, I don't see why they won't if 20 inch rims fit over the drums with room to spare"

I think the reason may be that a 20" tube type rim is 20" whereas a 19.5 tubeless wheel is really only 18". At least it takes a 22.5" tubless wheel to equal a 20" tube type wheel.

Guys, I was looking around a guy's Junk collection today, and he had an early 60's 40 series truck, like 60 to 66 that had One Piece 19.5's on it. Truck was total junk. Even had good tread on tires. He wouldn't sell the wheels, as someone is supposed to be buying the truck to fix up, IF, he can get the money. What a joke! If he can't afford to buy a junker, he sure won't be able to afford to fix it. Has a good six and a dump hoist that works, so said anyway. So, anyway, the 60's will have those wheels also, but harder to find the 40 or 4000 series trucks in any year.

Been looking to replace my split rims with tubeless rims, my truck is a 1953 Chevy 2 1/2 ton dump truck...need a center bore of 4 3/4 inches...10 lug...is there such a rim out there?

Not exactly.
Read and follow links here.
https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthread...els-and-tires-what-to-do.html#Post867617

Tubless wheels are available with 10 lugs on 7.25" circle like you have but with a larger 5.25" center bore.
You need to make or have made bushings to take up that difference.

I believe the largest Chevy truck in 53 was 2 ton, door tag says 16,000 lb. What does yours say, or what model?

For anyone interested in running semi wheels on their 10x7.25 hubs, Spoke to Trevor at Tennessee wheel and tire. He says they can make 10x7.25 bolt pattern with 4.75 bore x 10 lug semi wheels for 1350.00 shipped in the cont. USA

I'm hoping that is for a set of 6 or 7, and not per wheel!

Al or steel? 4.750" ID would be too small for latest 10 x 7.25 wheels-first gen. tubeless tires, late '50's take 5.250".

Ed

set of four adapters to run semi wheels on the 10x7.25 hubs.

steel..... and I sure he could make them in the 5.25 hub size too. I asked for the 4.75 as I am thinking about doing something on a 37 1.5 ton

First entry says wheels, last says adapters?

Ed

You are correct sir