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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 138 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 138 | I've asked for info on the original color of a 46 GMC truck with no responses. Seems no one knows. Well I found the answer underneath the dash trim on my own truck. See the link below. https://www.dropbox.com/s/1u827tlbv27ugtx/2015-04-10%2010.57.21.jpg?dl=0Notice that it is hammertone and therein lies my question. What do I need to add to acrylic enamel to get the hammertone effect? I bought paint from Carters but even if the shade is correct I doubt that it will be hammertone unless I add something. Anyone know how to get the hammertone effect? | | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 | I can't say for sure, but I seem to remember accidentally making some once using a water based(the milky type) paint thinner and some acetone as my reducers... It wasn't what I was looking for so I didn't really make a mental note of it. Paints cheap. play around using faster (lacquer thinner/acetones/MEK) and slower (paint thinner/turpentine) reducers and you might find something... or just settle for the rattle can in your closest color.
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | In short: There is no way!!!! Long way round: I was into restoring antique radio for many years and they used every kind of texture known to man on those old radios to fancy them up. For many, many years I looked into getting paint to wrinkle, crackle, hammertone in various ways. All the methods are propitiatory and they're not in any new or old treaties on paint manufacturing or finishing that I could find. I've heard hundred of different opinions on how to get the textures and tried most of them. Never had success with any of the methods. CASO, best bet is to choose a rattle can that is close and go with that. Even that will not give you the same effect that the original hammertome looked like. I'll bet it is rough but the surface is completely smooth. The Rustoleum or Hammertone brands leave pock marks, makes the part look like it had acne.
Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 | Acne... yeah that was it! Like chickem pox...
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 165 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 165 | Grandpa told me to paint with refrigerator cold paint to get a hammered finish but that was in the lacquer days. It seemed to work back then but I am not sure how it works with urethane.
This is a home remedy and I do not have pictures but it is good enough for the old man next door so it is good enough for me. I learned to paint the first coat on the metal as if I wanted a good paint job. Next spray lightly with some sort of contaminant such as silicone (armor all works well too). Next spray again with your paint. The fisheyes will be everywhere you sprayed your silicone (this does take practice to stay even) but when it pulls away the color underneath will be your original color. This is DIY at its finest but it does the job.
Good luck.
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| | | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 138 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 138 | Thanks guys. When I Google hammer tone there are dozens of additives to specifically make the hammer tone effect put out by dozens of companies but they are for industrial applications. One product comes in 180 kilogram pallets! I had heard of folks adding Toluene to paint to get the effect, (see Sheridan's 46Chevytruck.com). Lots of info on wikipedia under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer_paint. Wikipedia says, "To make the "hammered" effect more pronounced, a small percentage of silicone oil may be added directly before application." This is consistent with what I read because silicone oil is polydimethylsiloxane and that ingredient is common to a lot of the industrial products. Silicone oil is available locally and I think it is in Armour All. I think experimenting with concentrations of about .05% by weight is a starting point. Deve, I like your heater (and your website!). I'll probably use that same color you used since that is really close to my interior color. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Well Scott, that's one that I haven't heard. I just happen to have some cellulose acetate butyrate lacquer left over from the days when I was into building my own airplanes. So....I can't get to that project right now, but...I will put it on the list for sometime this summer and give it a try. I gotta admit, I'm gonna approach it with a great big dose of doubt. But thanks for throwing that out anyway. This paint is about as pristine as you will find and you can see how smooth it is, even though it gives the appearance of being rough: http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/159627378/originalDecve, hope you don't mine my stealing a snippet from you Hammerite photo to compare next to an original paint sample. The Rust Cap looks very good, not quite the original shade, and not quite as smooth, but tucked down under the dash, who's gonna notice: http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/159900982/original Tried toluene, ng, that's simply a thinner that's used in many paint formulas. Got sample of silicone oil from the lab at work years ago when I heard that story, that didn't do the trick. Haven't had time to surf the net to check out your links, maybe this evening after I finish the chores. I also just ordered an ounce of silver gray mica powder, I'll give that a shot in some Rustoleum, when I get a chance. Post your results Bogart, good or bad, when you do your experiments, I'd like to hear if you have any better luck than I've had. Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 219 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 219 | Rustoleum sells rattle can hammertone paint. It lays down pretty well and it is pretty tough if you let it cure in direct sun a week or so. I have it on a vise and I beat the fun out of it. It is holding up pretty well. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 Gas Pumper | | Gas Pumper Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 | Yes, that hammertone I showed a few posts up is Hammerite Rust Cap Bronze in the spray can. I am very impressed with the durability and shine. I have not talked to my PPG supplier, but it would seem you could get hammertone in automotive paint for spraying HVLP. No? | | | | | Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 629 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 629 | Toluene worked very well for me. Pics on my web page.
Tim Sheridan 1947 First Series Chevy 1/2-Ton"Liberty Series" - "Art Deco" - Whatever you'd like to call it. In the Gallery | | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 236 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2015 Posts: 236 | If you can be satisfied with rattle can paint, I have found through Home Depots web site a very close matching color for my 48 interior in hammertone. I think I had seen quart cans also.
I have had good luck with the paint so far in restoring some old distributor test sets and other automotive test equipment.
Baking in the nice desert sun, breathing life back into a 48 3800 5 window. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Tim, I've been to your site many times and enjoy and appreciate your sharing the journey with all of us. You have certainly become the authority on the restoration of the Art Deco series trucks. But....the site is a book in itself and after looking for a good while this morning, I can't seem to find any close up photos specifically showing the interior paint texture, which always seems to be where the problem lies with hammertone paints. Think you could post a link to one of the photos your addressing? Also, when you say Toluene worked very well for me, I'm sure you mean you used it as a thinner, but what did you use for a base paint? Thanks, Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 | I like the rustoleum hammer finishes. Yes it will look like acne after applying the first coat. Give it a second coat. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | Also, shake the heck out of it, regularly (before your paint and while you are spraying).
Maybe someone will post a link to a recent post showing a home-made spray-can shaker. I wish I had seen it before I painted my heater with the Rustoleum Hammertone spray-can paint. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 486 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 486 | I used a grey Rustoleum Hammertone paint on the interior of my '64 with a topcoat of flat clear. The only problem I had was that the thinner metal, like the ash tray, had a much smoother texture than the dash and cab which were thicker metal. http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn214/jfnar/1964%20chevy%20truck/79bb3aa7.jpg
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| | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 | Also, shake the heck out of it, regularly (before your paint and while you are spraying).
Maybe someone will post a link to a recent post showing a home-made spray-can shaker. I wish I had seen it before I painted my heater with the Rustoleum Hammertone spray-can paint. The shaker that comes to mind is a hose clamp on an old sawzall blade... low tech but effective.
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| | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 236 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2015 Posts: 236 | I keep waiting for the grand kids to show up but they are never there when the can shaking is needed. I started to look an old HF vibratory tumbler I have, simple enough just a offset weight on a electric motor, could rig a unit from a old window fan motor, but concerned on how much agitation would really occur. So I have been waiting for a sale on the HF 1 gallon pneumatic shaker. Some where I have a couple of old flip latch band clips for a old automotive fire extinguisher to make a quick latch spray can adapter for it.
Baking in the nice desert sun, breathing life back into a 48 3800 5 window. | | | | | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 888 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 888 | OK.... not really wanting to upset anyone....but ....It's not rocket science. Shake the darn can and spray. I like the sawzall shaker but by the time you take it out(remove hose clamps) contents could have settled...I haven't used but understand the principle...but what happened with just shaking...it's been used forever....I used straight out of the can Rustoleum Hammertone on my heater, shaken and paint looks ok and I'm pretty anal..If it appears to have acne...wet sand and clear coat....Sorry beat a horse to death..,,,or step on toes...I'm all for learning. I'm all for helping and trying new things....but sooner or later things seem to run rampant... Dan | | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 | Jeez Dan, I was hoping someone would go to the effort of actually hooking up one and posting a video... I fear you've shed a little too much light on the subject there buddy. 
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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | ....a reminder, depending on temperature I've found that laying a can in some warm water for a few minutes prior to spraying seems to help. Then shake, shake, shake your.......
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