ndkid275, Ok, both you and Jim Sears have put a smile on my face tonight. But I have to go with Jim. I have never killed an animal. I have never put out poison for an animal, or a trap. My conscience would likely bother me no end. I live in the forest, but I am, honestly, a city-slicker. If Waldbaum's did not have a meat counter, I would never have any meat to eat. My old lady has to clean the fish I catch. Anyway, ndkid, in the forests of the north, traps would be sprung in ten minutes. I would spend all day clearing traps, and still find my wires gnawed in the morning.