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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | Getting tired of stomping the floor starter on my 49. Is it a big job to change to a keyed or push button starter? Six cylinder - 12 volt system. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,747 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,747 | No it is easy. Put in the starter. Add a wire to the ignition switch. Run to a push button(clamp on horn button will work) Run wire from button to starter. Done. Push button to start. Not too difficult. No need for a spring type key switch. You could use a dash mounted push start switch if you wanted it to look nice and clean. I think there was one on the GMC truck of the same vintage? There was one on my 50 Olds so there was some parts around. But that horn button is easy and no one will know what it does.
Steve H
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,700 back yard wrench turner | | back yard wrench turner Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,700 | I did that same thing to my '38. The button is on the dash to the left of the steering wheel. I also added a hidden kill switch that disconnects power to the coil. Wayne1938 1-Ton Farm TruckStovebolt Gallery Forums1989 Silverado 1996 Mustang GT convertible When I die, I hope she doesn't sell everything for what I told her I paid for it! | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,249 "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! | | "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,249 | | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | I guess I would have to change the starter. Don't know if I could modify the one I am using. | | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | Yes, you will need to find a 6V solenoid starter, assuming your flywheel is still the 139 tooth one. Start saving and good luck in your search. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 | You want to remove THE coolest part on these trucks? Blasphemy comes to mind, but that may be too harsh. LOL.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | I agree. Its also a great anti-theft device. But in April I broke my right ankle and its still sore. Stomping the starter does not help. Stomping should not be necessary frankly as I have seen youtube videos and the driver just puts their foot on the floor button and it starts. Got me to thinking maybe I am stomping hard because my return spring is too strong. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | The "stomp" aspect of a foot-activated starter is either due to a driver having a bad mood, or having an mean and angry personality, or having a silly notion that stomping the starter will make up for a weak starting system (worn-out starter or small-gauge battery cables).
All that is needed is a light push.
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | (...) maybe I am stomping hard because my return spring is too strong. and/or the pivot points need lubricating Bill | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,753 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,753 | If you switch to a solenoid-type starter and a push button, use a HEAVY DUTY push button. The current draw of the pull-in winding on a GM type solenoid is about 50 amps for a fraction of a second, and it will fry a low current push switch in a very short time. Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | Pivot points are well lubed. Always have been. Spring is the cause possibly. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 | Stick with it Sedgewick, we don't want to lose even one more foot starter. I'll bet you can work on it to make it easier to step on. Or you can drive something else until you get healed up.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | carry a stick along or use your crutch to push the button  Bill | | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | It might be as simple as cleaning the contact in the switch, or it may be worn and need replacement. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | You have all convinced me. I will do all I can to keep it. Still think it might be the return spring but will look at all other things. | | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | The return spring needs to be just strong enough to hold the drive gear away from the flywheel gear when at rest. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,254 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,254 | If you do want to go with a key start send me a pm.
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| | | | | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 | I've kept all my floor starters as just about every starter failure i've had turned out to be the solenoid. And it is a pretty good theft deterent, most of the younger croud have no idea what that's all about. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 Gas Pumper | | Gas Pumper Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 | The foot starter is one of the biggest charms of having this vintage of truck. Its a really cool feature and makes for lively conversation. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,146 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,146 | If you decide to change from manual foot start to a push button start. The Hydra-Matic truck has a solenoid starter. Here is a 1954 Early 1955 Chevrolet truck wiring diagram that includes the Hydra-Matic push button start wiring.(dashed lines) DiagramBut you have to use a beefy switch & wire for the 6 volt amperage. Like this one. # 1996055 There is also a neutral safety switch which you could hook up to the clutch pedal so the starter would not fire unless the pedal was pushed in. You really wouldn't need that though. 1950-1954 Chevrolet Neutral Safety Switch NOS # 1997845 The Hydra-Matic neutral safety switch is controled by the shifting linkage. Thanks, | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,144 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,144 | It might be as simple as cleaning the contact in the switch, or it may be worn and need replacement. I have had a couple of starters that either would not turn or would do so intermittently, cleaning the contact and replacing button switch on top of starter fixed the problem. The starter contact sometimes developes a groove in the surface so a new Switch sometimes will cure that. The contact also may develop some corrosion from time and arcing. Another item would be if cab rot has let the cab shift to where stomping the starter and bending floorboard is the only way you can get full contact between button and starter contact. With my 38 I often just reach in with my hand and push starter pedal that way I can use my thumb on gas pedal at same time. It doesn't have to be pushed real hard. No seats is the reason for not just climbing in and using conventional foot method. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 202 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 202 | I think the floor starter button is one of the really cool features of these trucks. Beautiful simplicity. Not mention its one less electrical device to quit on me.
Walt Williams La Verkin, UT
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 40 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 40 | Can a remote starter be attached to the starter so you can start the engine without having to press the foot starter? Makes setting the points easier if you can. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | Paul, the foot starter does mechanical as well as electrical work, the only way to "remote" it would be to change to a key start solenoid, different starter ... but if you just want to bump the engine while working under the hood, it's common and easy to use a large screw driver or other pry tool between the button lever on the starter and the floor to activate the starter
Bill | | | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,146 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,146 | Paul, but if you just want to bump the engine while working under the hood, it's common and easy to use a large screw driver or other pry tool between the button lever on the starter and the floor to activate the starter Bill Here is a Cut-away view of starter motor drive & Mechanical starter linkage--- scroll down to view picture. Like red58 said, You have to use a pry tool between the starter lever arm and return spring and pry it over to activate starter. Or possibly clamp a vise-grip pliers to the end of the starter lever arm and apply downward force to pliers to activate starter. Safety Note: Make sure the truck is in neutral. | | |
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