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#834675 03/13/2012 12:12 AM
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Going to order some rivets to reline my brakes on my 1 ton. I was able to find some old Greyrock already predrilled. The box calls for no. 4-6 rivets. In the 1/2 ton trucks it looks like they used 4-4.5 rivets. Anyway should I get brass or steel?


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If you are having a hard time getting rivets and have a small aircraft repair shop around, they do all there own brake work and i would think that they would have the rivets.

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1 ton trucks (AFAIK) don't use riveted brake pads - they're bonded.

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Bigtonka, I'll have to check for that by pulling the hub off. I hadn't done that yet. The box of Grey-Rock "balanced" linings is labeled with "1946 1-ton truck". But what you said may coincide with the fact there are no rivets mentioned in the parts book for my trucks. There are some for earlier pre-40's trucks.


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Checked the rears and they are riveted. Brass or steel?


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Brake pads are riveted with what we call a hollow shank rivet. It takes a rivet set that curls the hollow shank. Give these guys a call. http://www.rivetsinstock.com/rivets/brake-clutch-rivets.html

This is what the rivet set for hollow shank rivets looks like. http://www.rivetsinstock.com/rivet-tools/solid-semitubular-rivet-tools.html

I use one with a .401 Parker shank that fits in a pneumatic rivet gun. An air chisel will not work because it is not controllable enough. I have seen these type of rivet sets rigged up to work in an arbor press.

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Sorry - didn't mean to misslead you - perhaps that changed in 47? My 49 are bonded.

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Both bonded and riveted have been available for years and I highly doubt there's any ADs around with the original brake shoes. We need the guy that installed them at the factory to solve this mystery.


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...perhaps they were riveted to begin with but the aftermarket replacment folks did it the cheap and fast wasy....bonding?


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The couple of thousand brake rivets I've installed were all brass, to the best of my recollection. We had a relining machine at the family shop back in the late 1950's. It had a built-in drilling fixture to remove the old rivets, a radius grinder to clean up the surface of the shoes prior to relining, and even a special drill bit to counterbore the lining material for the rivets. We bought bulk lining material in 100-foot rolls.
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Brass it is. I see where the aviation and old tractor industry repairs their own brakes/clutches. I got a hand held or bench vise tool they use that's supposed to grind off the rivet, punch it out, countersink the lining, and press a new rivet in. I did see some old hand lever bench top rivet tools on Ebay but the dies appear to be missing. We'll see what happens when I get it all.


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