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#81677 08/19/2007 1:48 AM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | i have a 283 sbc an a 1ton granny gear 4spd the 283 runs good an has never let me down but it smokes an blows some oil b/c it needs rings i dont kno what year it is b/c grandaddy got it from a junk yard many years ago an i was wondering bout what kinda price i should put on it
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#81678 08/19/2007 2:51 AM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,384 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,384 | Usually around here used V8s are anywhere from $100-$500 | | |
#81679 08/19/2007 3:37 AM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | round here a 283 that needs a rebuild is hard to give away, but sometimes see'em as "cores" for 1-200 - the 4spd would detract from it for most
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#81680 08/19/2007 4:05 AM | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 940 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 940 | It's true, a 283 especially needing rebuilding won't bring much. I have about 10 here and they are not much in demand, right now anyway.
But the 4-Speed Granny Gear in good condition should bring anywhere from $75 to $275, around here anyway.
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#81681 08/19/2007 4:11 AM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | About the only way a 283 really has any great value is if it's a proper coded and dated engine for something like a Corvette or Feullie '57-'59 Chevy.
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#81682 08/19/2007 4:11 AM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | were is the casting number located i found a guy thats looking for a 283 but he listed a casting number.an theres a guy on craigslist that has a 283 with trans needs rebuild an he wants 500 for it but want and geting are to different things what year did they stop running a canister oil fillter?seens i dont kno what year motor it is.how would i go bout finding out
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#81683 08/19/2007 4:47 AM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | casting number is normally on the flange the bellhouse bolts to, top of drivers side .... post it and I can prolly tell the year range .... if it has the mounting bosses on the side it's 58+ .... if it has a neoprene rear main seal it's 59+ .... all 283's originally had the tin can filter, if it doesn't, it'll have an adapter added, the spin on started in 68
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#81684 08/19/2007 4:59 AM | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 940 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 940 | Also, near the casting number you will find a date code. It will be between what looks like 2 slotted screw heads. It will have a letter first and 2 to 4 numbers. If you can find it, post it and we can tell you the exact date it was casted. Also on the front of the block, at the bottom of the passenger side head, you will see a pad. List those letters and numbers as well and we can tell you more about the engine.
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#81685 08/19/2007 5:06 AM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | casting number is it beside the disturbuter.ive been messing with a pontiac motor trying to get the numbers all day so i may get some things mixed up
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#81686 08/19/2007 5:11 AM | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 940 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 940 | No, like red58 stated, it is on the back of the block, on the left (drivers) side, near the seam of the bell housing and the block, but on the block. It will have 7 digits.
If the engine is still in the vehicle, it may be hard to see.
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#81687 08/19/2007 5:18 AM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | If the engine is still in the vehicle, it may be hard to see. [/QB][/QUOTE]
i figered yalled say that but theres no front end on the truck so maybe that will help im going to go look 1st thing tomorow moring an then ill post em
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#81688 08/19/2007 5:26 AM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | take a piece of mirror, easy to see that way, just don't write it down backwards Bill | | |
#81689 08/24/2007 4:43 AM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | well it took a few days to get a cahnce to get back on here. but i think this is what i came up with 3896944 it my be wrong
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#81690 08/24/2007 5:36 AM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | that's a good 283 block number from 65-67 either truck or car .... those years shouldn't be bored more than .060, thinner walls than the mid-range ones
to get closer than that you'd need the number off the boss in front of the pass side head
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#81691 08/24/2007 5:58 AM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | would it be worth it to put new rings in it an then sell it b/c thats the only thing thats wrong as far as i kno? an ill try to get them numbers
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#81692 08/24/2007 6:09 AM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | well if it were that simple, but would prolly need some boring, and while it's apart, maybe other work ... gets to be more money than it's worth just to sell, but someone may want a builder, and it's always nice to start with a runner rather than a siezed blocka steel Bill | | |
#81693 08/24/2007 6:24 AM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | I'd rather buy one I can hear run and that looks like no one has opened it recently. I'm not likely to buy one someone told him they had put new rings in.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | |
#81694 08/24/2007 6:59 AM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | that makes snese. i think im part of the resone it needs rings the motor sat for 20+ years. i spent bout 50 bucks an drive it home an i drive it jus as hard as i could drive it but did not lot the seals an stuff get back right 1st well at least daddy says its my fault
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#81695 08/24/2007 2:19 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 | I like to take a digital camera and try to take pictures of the casting numbers. A lot of times I can't get my head close enough to see them.
To rebuild the 283 is more expensive than a 350. My '58 283 I punched to .080" and now it's a little over 300 cubic inches.
If I remember correctly, the "early" 283's can be punched to at least .100". | | |
#81696 08/24/2007 4:37 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | Early 283's could be bored .125" to a 4" bore size, creating the legendary "301" engine. When Chevy combined the 327 block with the 283 crankshaft to make the Z-28 Camaro "302" they actually cheated about half a cubic inch. The actual displacement is 301.46 cubic inches.
301's had cooling problems because of the thin cylinder walls, but they ran like stink! 8,000+ RPM with the right porting, valves, camshaft and valve springs was not uncommon.
A small-block Chevy with over 50,000 miles on it WILL need to be rebored, guaranteed! Jerry
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#81697 08/25/2007 12:02 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 | I had on of those early (57) 283's that was an original fuelie. Bored it to 4" and Jerry is right. It would positively scream. I know some guys who bored 283's that actually went thru the cylinder, the walls were so thin. But I was lucky however and it did run a might warm. We saw way more HP on a dyno, w/o water pump or generator than any of you would believe if I said it. Suffice it to say it was powerful and then some.
And this was a 2 bolt block using a lot of stock parts (and a few not so stock) | | |
#81698 08/25/2007 2:23 AM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 116 | i thought the 302 was stroked?
i need anthor price estamte my parts truck has a inline 6 wit HEI aint that wat you call it but anyway i found a guy who wants to buy one an wanted to kno what would be to high of a price an what wouild be to low
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