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#79057 06/22/2007 7:27 AM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 25 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 25 | I have just rebuilt a Chev 350 that ran on propane. It is now on Gas. I have had problems setting the lifters and have discouvered that once the engine warns up, I lose the oil pressure. I have replaced the oil pump and still have the same problem. i have pulled the intake and looked at the lifters and they look good. Any ideas what could be causing it?
Waggy Chev- Sedan 36,Apache 59,Longhorn 69, Chrysler 300 - 1970 conv, Ford Prefect 49, International L130 1950 Surrey, BC, Canada
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#79058 06/22/2007 12:40 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,629 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,629 | What is the oil preassure running cold vs hot? Did you make sure new cam bearings were installed? Have you put a manual guage on to make sure the preassure is dropping? | | |
#79059 06/22/2007 9:40 PM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 25 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 25 | OIl pressure cold was 18 or so at idle and once warm dropped to little or none. There was flow but no pressure when we disconnected the oil electronic sender unit. We then put on an oil sender unit where the oil goes up the tube and we can see the pressure from 0 to 60. New cam bearings were installed.
Waggy Chev- Sedan 36,Apache 59,Longhorn 69, Chrysler 300 - 1970 conv, Ford Prefect 49, International L130 1950 Surrey, BC, Canada
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#79060 06/22/2007 10:04 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Waggy,
Welcome to the Stovebolt. I'm not sure I understand your last post. You need to put a known good mechanical gauge on the system to get a bullet proof reading of your oil pressure...you want to bypass any questions with a sending unit or electrical gauge.
If your mechanical gauge verifies the cold pressure at 18lbs, you have a problem. It should be much much more than this, and with a new engine, should drop very little when warm.
If all your rebuild clearances were proper then the assumptions would be; the pump isn't picking the oil up or there is a massive internal leak somewhere. I don't think this much pressure/volume would be lost in the lifter area without some other telltale rattling or banging. You said you changed oil pumps...did you remove a new one and reinstall another new one. Do they come with the pickup tube installed? I don't know if a loose pickup could draw air and result in diminished oil flow.
Oil that has been thinned by fuel from a leaking fuel pump won't develop as much pressure as good oil...does your oil smell of gas or seem extremely thin?
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#79061 06/23/2007 11:30 AM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,629 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,629 | I agree it would have to be a very massive internal leak to cause that low of pressure on start up. Or could the pickup tube for the pump be partially clogged or too close to the pan bottom?
If bearing clearances were too great, looks like something would be making noise. Does this engine have an external oil cooler? If not, look at the adapter for the spin on oil filter and make sure the relief valve and spring are still in place.
Check the main bearings to see if perhaps a bearing half might be missing. It still looks to me like it would make noise without one shell in place, but it might not. But with one shell missing it wouldn't pressure up very well.
Good luck in your hunting and let us know what you find. | | |
#79062 06/23/2007 2:28 PM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | Did you simply pull a valve cover and see if its oiling good and oil going down the returns? Did you put in a "beefed up" oil pump that may be sucking the pan dry. Pumping oil faster than it can return?? Keep us posted. | | |
#79063 06/23/2007 2:52 PM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,756 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,756 | I had a problem on mine, the oil pickup was too high(you could move it by hand) was sucking air with the pan full. | | |
#79064 06/23/2007 3:30 PM | Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,703 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,703 | sounds like it is either drawin too fast or the pickup is too high as Gazim said . | | |
#79065 06/28/2007 5:56 PM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 25 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 25 | I have replaced the lifters and the poblem appears to be gone. I had tightened the rockets to tight and the lifters no longer lift!
Thanks for everyones help. I did test most of the ideas, and have stored them away for next time!
Waggy Chev- Sedan 36,Apache 59,Longhorn 69, Chrysler 300 - 1970 conv, Ford Prefect 49, International L130 1950 Surrey, BC, Canada
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