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#69902 12/12/2006 6:06 AM | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 Apprentice | Apprentice Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 | So I want to upgrade my distributor to an HEI, any suggestions? Who makes the best fit and best value? I'm not looking for extreme performance, but better starting and reliability is the goal.
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#69903 12/12/2006 12:12 PM | Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 262 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 262 | If you're running a V-8 any Chevy HEI distributor, pre-1980, will work just fine. Got mine at the wrecking yard for $10.
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#69904 12/12/2006 3:32 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 | I think you can buy a new one through JEGS for $75 to $125. | | |
#69905 12/12/2006 4:20 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | 55.2napco, There are several ways to go on this swap. Your profile indicates a 235 six. You can keep the original housing/cap for the stock look and install a electronic assembly like Pertronix. If you look under '235 Chevy' on E-bay, you will find pre-80's GM HEI complete distributors with coil-in-cap that will slip right in with MINOR modifications. A gentleman named Tom Langdon has a very cute HEI unit that will drop right in, but like the Pertronix unit, I think it too needs a external coil. Your local junk yard might have a bargain waiting to be found...take a friend and some tools and see what develops. Stuart | | |
#69906 12/13/2006 5:30 AM | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 Apprentice | Apprentice Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 | All right, thanks guys. Good info there, now I have some places to start looking. | | |
#69907 12/13/2006 5:33 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 52 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 52 | New for sure, the price has come way down. Stock HEI's are as reliable as anything. | | |
#69908 12/13/2006 2:01 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,832 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,832 | If it is a 235 the HEI will engage the oil pump--but just barely. The hold down collar needs to be turned down and a new hold down fabricated to get full oil pump drive engagement. I've had no trouble out of the Pertronix conversion, it takes just minutes to install and costs about 80 bucks. You keep your same distributer, just do away with the points.
Evan
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#69909 03/19/2007 1:54 AM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 451 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 451 | All, Diggin around in an old parts garage and have found (assume rebuilt HEI) from a 1983 Chevey 1/2 ton 2wd Pickup 4.1 (still in box). Want to modify it per the tech tip for my 1954 235. Has a vacum advance, no cap, coil, etc. but 3 wires off the side of it and a GM plug? What are these for? I thought the only wire was a heavy gauge red wire to coil on the cap and mayby a tach wire. Can this work or do I need to look for an older or newer version. If I cange out the "module" piece with one without wires, I will have a small hole in the side of housing. Will a differnt cap cover it? This one was the right price, free, if I could carry it, I did. Cavebull | | |
#69910 03/19/2007 2:35 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | There are two different styles for the inline six. One has a conventional-looking cap with a center wire, and a remote coil. The other one looks like a V-8 HEI with the coil in the cap, but only 6 wires instead of 8. If you've got 3 wires in the plug coming out of the distributor, you've probably got the remote coil model. Find a Mid-70's wiring diagram for a 250 6-cylinder, and wire it accordingly. I might have a diagram I can copy and attach to an email, but it will be a week before I'm back at my school shop where the old service manuals are stored. Jerry
PS: Even the integral-coil models have a pigtail from the distributor housing to the inner cap terminals, and there are 3 wires on that one. You might have an integral coil model already. Jerry
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#69911 03/19/2007 4:59 AM | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 65 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: May 2005 Posts: 65 | What is better (fuel economy , performance) for the 235/261 engines, the Pertronix conversion or a good HEI setup like Tom Langdon sells? Or is there not enough difference to notice?
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#69912 03/19/2007 6:23 AM | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 920 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2004 Posts: 920 | I have Langdon's mini HEI. Everything worked well on my truck before, it started fast then, it starts fast now. The most noticable improvement is the smooth very low rpm idle and low speed driveability. It is also more forgiving during warm-up. | | |
#69913 03/19/2007 3:44 PM | Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 455 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 455 | Both HEI and Pertronix will convert/upgrade to no points, more dwell plus higher voltage to the spark. Pertronix can handle a coil up to 40kV, allowing a .045 gap at the spark. More than that is not required at below 3500rpm and stock compression.
HEI can go further than Pertronix, for higher rpm and compression engines. But for a stock engine there is probably hardly any noticable difference in performance, between the two. | | |
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