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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 142 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: May 2008 Posts: 142 | Anybody know of a good source for vintage style tinted windows? I am looking for the flat safety glass in a green hue. Today I only see the smoke, or charcoal style available. I also remember an orange tint on the old hot rods. How do you measure the shade/darkness? What shade is acceptable for side and rear windows, as to the windshield? Any leads appreciated.
Dale | | | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 445 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 445 | Glass shop.Check your state laws on tint or inspection station.I have the green hue in my 51.everything except the corner windows.
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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | Dale, as for what shade is acceptable I would recommend you stopping at a place that puts on tint film. They have a scale or pieces of glass, or film, to show you what is legal and what is not. I just bought new "smoke" glass for my panel here locally. Since the rear doors is curved I took them to a film tinting place and picked out the tint I liked best....which happened to be just a bit darker than my side glasses....but they on the rear and will not be noticed much, if at all.
To get something like orange I would think you will have to have the glasses film tinted ....just my guess, unless special order from a glass company. | | | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 142 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: May 2008 Posts: 142 | Of course, why did I not think of the glass or tint shop? I am curious if anyone had luck with the vintage type of tinted glass that is laminated. Old school. Is there a special name to it? Luckily, I have all flat glass and when I redo the windows, I want just a faint trace in the windshield, and just a little more darker on the sides and back. Not looking for modern limo type.
Dale | | | | | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 888 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 888 | 46, I used this on my 4t6. It was purchased at the local glass shop. Soft green tint was the name about 60 beans each. I had all my glass cut there. Have fun and good luck Dan | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | Dale...Any good glass shop should be able to supply flat glass in a green tint,in either tempered or laminated. Window tint film is fine but has it's limitations.(It's more prone to scratch and fade over time) I'm lucky,I simply bought a sheet of green laminated glass and cut my own windshields.(This is my job) The side (door) glasses I had made in 5mm tempered green glass,after I made templates.(This is more suited for doors etc.) It can withstand more abuse i.e door slamming! I'd post some pics but I haven't fitted them yet! I hope this helps Good luck Jock  1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 576 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 576 | i lucked out .i pulled a freebie 350 out of a van we were scrapping at work.good motor mine fot the takin.put an ad in the free trader to sell it for parts money for the 49.a guys calls on it.says hes wanting to put it in a van for his business.says he owns a glass shop,weelllll.long one short i get all new greylight glass he even installed the glass in the side window frames, he gets his motor and it only cost me about 2 1/2 hrs labor..................dave
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1949 Chevrolet 3100 "When this thing hits 88 miles an hour, you're going to see some serious sh%t." -Doc Brown
| | | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 142 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: May 2008 Posts: 142 | Thank you all for info. Dan, your windows look fantastic! Just what I am looking for. Jock, so for the windshield I should ask for (soft) green laminated, and for the sides and rear, tempered (soft) green? As for the thickness, I am unable to measure the ones in the truck right now, as I am home. But you mentioned 5mm? Is that standard? Is auto glass measured in SAE, metric, or both? I will insure the glass shop know it is for a 1946 Chevrolet truck, and use original glass for the templates. Great info. Dale | | | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 445 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 445 | No tempered glass.It's a NO NO.Safty plate only .Can't cut tempered glass.Bump a edge an you have 10,000 pieces.The side &vent windows,rear &windsheld will cost around $280. Then you'll need new rubber for the glass & channel stripping for the doors.You don't want too crack those new windows.Good luck.A glass shop can cut all the windows for you. Saftey plate glass laminated.Canopy check my truck in the gallery 1951 dan kalenak
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | dan-pa, If you read my post you will see I had my tempered glass 'made' to my templates. I did not say I cut them, It starts life as standard single layer plate and is then 'toughened' in a heating process. Why is tempered glass a NO NO? Several million vehicles can't be wrong. Manufacturers have been using it for decades now. The reason it was used was,if in an accident you were (God forbid) incapacitated and the Rescue Services were unable to open the door due to damage,the window could be shattered into 'relatively' harmless (small) pieces to administer first aid quickly. Try that with laminated side glass.... My front windshields are 6.4mm laminated glass (sorry 'bout the Euro metric talk!) 6.4mm Laminated glass on forward facing windshields is a Legal requirement over here...... Dale...the 5mm tempered glass was tight in my 50s frames, but I didn't use glass setting tape but instead a small section 'U' shaped rubber seal that I found at work and were hammered into the frames with glass cleaner as lube and a rubber mallet. Again...try that with laminated. O.K so it's not original,but neither is my engine,supension and so on....I think it looks good and I'm happy with it. Whether you use tempered or laminated side glass is your choice.Either is alright. Tempered was my preference for the reasons I have already stated. Incidentally a 4mm (1/4" approx.)tempered door glass can easily support my weight and I'm 6'4" and 200lbs+ !
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1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | laminated safety glass is for windshields and cut to fit replacement side glass - tempered safety glass is used in all vehicle OEM flat/side glass as Jock sez .... plate glass of any type is architectural glass, used in buildings
laminated glass is used for windshields cuz when broken it stays in one piece, no sharp shards - tempered is used for the flat glass cuz cheaper and it shatters into fingernail size pieces when broken, no sharp shards, protecting the occupants [not helping the rescue boys] .... the 'fragile edge' of tempered glass is why GM used metal frames on the side glass for a time - but you won't find the average auto glass shop in N America to temper glass on demand, if they can't buy the piece factory made for the application
Bill | | | | | Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,859 Grumpy old guy playing with trucks, cars, and boats | | Grumpy old guy playing with trucks, cars, and boats Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,859 | Jock, 6.4mm is 1/4", 5mm is .2" Not metric talk, just NASA talk....wait, they (messed) up the mars rover didnt they?
Either way, windshields are laminated to keep the rocks from hitting you in the head, the rest is tempered like Jock stated to pull ones back side from a wreck.
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | protecting the occupants [not helping the rescue boys] Bill I agree Bill,but it works both ways. Some of the worst cuts I've had has been from de-laminating glass.  One car a (F*rd Escort imported from the U.S.) was so bad it was like scimitar swords breaking away as I tried to remove the windshield! (It must have come from a really hot State!) Laminated glass is great, as long as it's in good condition.Another point is,Tempered glass(toughened as we call it here) doesn't discolour and go brittle over time,unlike the yellow glass that was in my truck when I got it. Sorry Scott,I was schooled entirely in Metric. I'm OK with feet and inches,but when you get down to fractional measurements,I'm stuffed! 
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1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 142 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: May 2008 Posts: 142 | Good safety info on glass. Looks like I will go laminated, as I will not be having the sides and back "made", but it sure makes sence. As for metric, sorry Jockbolter, I just noticed you are in Scotland. Dale | | |
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