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| | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 453 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 453 | Well...I got a oil seal from NAPA. Is there a trick to putting these things on the pinion? It's the right size but when I tried to put this thing on the pinion, the rubber seal tore. I got another one yesterday. The retainer and U-joint yoke are cleaned and painted, being careful not to paint anything that the oil seal and felt ring touch. I really don't want to mess up another one.
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~Ron | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 | Hy mummdogg did the seal tear on the pinion spline? If it is that tight on the spline, you may have to wrap the shaft with electrical tape to protect the seal until it is installed in the bore, I don't remember them as being tight to the spline though, hope that helps.
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,867 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,867 | Oil that puppy up first! Then twist it while stuffing it over the shaft. Should spin on fairly easy that way.
Jeff | | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 453 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 453 | DAG-GONE!! I tore another one! Jeff, I think I'll try your way the next time. It looks like it'll fit, but real tight. I oiled the heck out of it and slowly tapped it on with a piece of wood. As soon as it started going on the shaft, it seemed to smash the rubber ring and the tiny spring inside the rubber seal started coming out. It sure doesn't go on easy though.
I'm afraid if I put tape on the spline, it'll make it even tighter. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 | Hy mummdogg, something is wrong, do you still have your old seal, can you find a number on it? Could you measure the part you're try to install the seal over/on and post that dimension here? What is the number of the seal you're trying to install? | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,846 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,846 | If it's that tight on the spline, you'll never get the yoke through it without totally destroying it. Try comparing sizes with the original seal, and I'll bet you find the old one has a larger inside diameter. The lip should be a snug, but not excessively tight fit on the hub of the yoke, not the input shaft spline.
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| | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Are you tearing them when you put the seal in the houseing or when you put the yoke in the seal? You must be putting the seal in backwards. The lip faces in. When the yoke goes in it pushes the lip of the seal back just enough to seal.
They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 453 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 453 | The first thing I did was install the felt ring first in the retainer, then I was able to install the oil seal in the retainer on top of the felt ring fairly easy. I used a wood board laying flat against the seal to tap it in. I made sure the open end of the rubber was facing the bearing.
I honestly think you guys are correct in saying it may be the wrong I.D. diameter. O.D. diameter seems perfect.
Currently, I'm in Pierre, SD. When I get home on Wednesday, I'll give ya the part number thats in the box and try to give ya the best I.D. measurement I can give. The best I can do is with a tape measure...sorry.
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~Ron | | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 453 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 453 | OK...The part number in the box is "23755". There's another number, "CRWH1 R". Also, the dimension of the yoke that goes threw the I.D. of the seal is @ 2.59375". The O.D. is @ 3.46875", 0.50" wide. Like I said, it's the best I can do with what I have.
Hoped this helped.
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 | Hy mummdogg, on April 15th I gave you two seal numbers C/R 25970 = Napa NOS 25970 $19.69, or National 411330N, 23755 dimensions are I.D. 2.375 X O.D. 3.481 X .438, 25970 dimensions are I.D. 2.598 X O.D. 3.481 X .438, so as you can see 23755 bore or I.D. is .223 too small, hope that helps. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | Sometimes the intended shaft diameter is written on the box and also as above, it appears to be too small. | | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 453 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 453 | Thanks guys. I should've just taken your P/N with me when I bought the seal. I guess I just assumed by tellin' them what I needed, it would be the same P/N you gave me. Then when I tore the first one, I thought I did it wrong or the seal rubber was supposed to be that tight and went and got the same thing. For now on, I'll take the advise from the tribal elders here before I make any purchases.
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