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| | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Brian,
I can't help with your questions, but I will say, that is one cool looking truck. I am amazed at the length of the bed, as the truck has only one axle. It seems like it wouldn't take much to overload it. Great find!
Stuart | | | | | Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,549 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,549 | Nice truck Brian. I had several of the '60-'66 LCF trucks, a few years ago. A '60 L80 roadtractor,348ci. V8, 5 spd. trans., 2 spd. elect. shift rear axle, & full air brakes, '64 L60H, equipment hauler, repowered with a small block 350 V8, 5 spd. trans., 2 spd. elect. shift rear axle, with air over hyd. brakes, & a '65 L80 Holmes Wrecker, 409ci. V8, 5 spd. trans., 2 spd. elect. shift rear axle, & full air brakes. The '64's were available, with a 292 6, 327 small block 8, or 348, & 409 Big Block 8. Check out my old trucks here, along with a few others. http://classiccoe.com/oldcoetrucks/6066.htm | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 | Hy Brian, According to my books it should have a 327, the heavy duty models of that series in that year had 348s. Judging by the fact that you have a vacuum shift 2 spd. I would say yours is not a heavy duty model, they usually have electrically shifted Eaton 2 spds. Hope this helps. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 | thanks for all the help so far! Yes it is a rather long bed, it also has a strange tilt system with the cylinders located behind the rear wheels instead of up front. It also has a large winch built into the headache rack that uses the stroke of 4 big cylinders to pull the cable up. For not being a heavy duty, it sure has a healthy stack of leaf springs! I would guess the vacuum lines for the rearend are cracked and leak from the truck sitting. The motor is free, just needs a little tinkering. I hope to have it home and running over the holidays. Can anyone tell me from the picture if the rims are split rims or not? Can one pass a DOT inspection with split rims anymore? | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 | Hy Brian, It's hard to tell from the pics, but I would bet they are splits. Tire size is a better thing to look at if you dont recognize the difference, non split rims usually have tubeless tires, sizes like 19.5", 22.5" etc. Hope this helps | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,422 Former Workshop Owner | | Former Workshop Owner Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,422 | Nice looking truck. At first glance, I would have guessed that it was a few years newer. Does that bed roll back also or just tilt? If it rolls back, that may explain why the cylinders are located behind the axle.
~ J Lucas 2006 GMC Envoy 4.2 I6 2023 Ram 2500/Cumins 6.7 I6 2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee (Wife’s) 2002 Silverado 2500 Gas 6.0 1941 Chevy 1/2-Ton 1942 Chevy 1.5-Ton SWBIn the Gallery My Flicker Photos! | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 | The tire size looks like 8:25x20 or possibly 9:00x20. 8:25x20 was the standard size for the model as I recall. If the rear is vacuum it is a 15K rated GM unit. The hinge for the equipment body appears to be located behind the rear wheels as that is exactly the bed longsills and frame meet. Could you be mistaken about this? Are you certain that those are not the winch cylinders you spoke of? I've been around this stuff for 40 years and have yet to see lift cylinders mounted at the hinge area as there is no leverage at that point. Photos are too dark to see what is up front where I'd expect to see them.
I think I see an Oliver decal on the door. Man that would be so cool to restore and then haul an old Oliver tractor around. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 254 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 254 | i like the Oliver stickers on the door my dad used to have an Oliver 1800 tractor don't know the year i think it was 60's and my grandpa has a Oliver Row Crop 77 i think that one is 40's - 50's both really awesome tractors
Nate | | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 | sorry I dont have any closer pictures of the cylinders right now, but they (for the bed) are mounted behind the rear wheel, and angle up and away from the truck. They appear to be single action cylinders(only one hose to each) and it looks like you release the pressure to lower the bed, then extend the cylinders to push up on the rear of the bed and level it out. So this would mean the rear half of the bed is heavier than the front half?? I know it sounds pretty goofy and I have never seen another tilt bed set up this way either but thats the way it appears it works. The cylinders for the winch lay horizontal in the headache rack on the front.
OldIronChevy- yes this truck was owned at one point by a local Oliver dealer, I'm curious as to if they painted it green and white or if it came that way. Might have to see if I can track down someone from the dealership to ask them more about it. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 | What you describe is so strange. I looked at the photos again and it's hard to say if the bed is hinged at midpoint. What is even more strange is that the cylinders would have to pull rather than push to lift the body. And as far as balance is concerned the winch cyliders and headache rack are ahead of the hinge point so that means it is heavier up front. Maybe they figured on driving the tractors slowly back and just letting the body sort of ease down with those cylinders acting like shock absorbers. BTW, is there a body manufacturer tag on the bed?
Well you learn something everyday but this one is sort of out there. Anyway it is a really neat truck and I hope you do restore it to original Oliver dealership detail. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 | Yes I agree it is quite strage. The thing that gets me is the cylinders are single acting, meaning they cant pull, only push. So the bed would almost have to be heavier on the rear to get it to pivot down, unless they used to winch to pivot it somehow. I didnt notice any sort of latch either to help hold the bed down on the front. Hopefully I can get some close up pictures this weekend. The bed rails and sills look to be a factory job, with the rear wedge and headache rack added on afterwords. It has a wood floor, so it is possible it was a grain box at one time.
As far as restoring it, I always thought they looked better in their work clothes, but it is owned by my 15 yr old brother so it will be up to him to decide. It's still going to have a few years of work left hauling cars for us as well, so maybe down the road it will get some paint. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,233 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,233 | Could this be a "poor mans" roll-off? The rear portion could just be a permanent ramp and the body just "see-sawed" on a hinge pin. The carried load would always need to be ahead of the hinge point and the winch might have been used to pull the front down when there wasn't a load. Mike B  | | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 | Mike;
Makes sense to me. I wonder what a guy would have to do to convert it to a "roll-back design. It looks like it's halfway there now.
Brian;
When you get more pics of the hydraulic cylinders,how 'bout grabbing some pics of the engine too. You have me all curious now...
Cool truck-I don't see many with the 10 lug wheels anymore.
Speed | | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,068 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,068 | Hey Brian,
If you ever decide to sell that truck let me know. Where is Bridgewater anyway?
Scott | | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,233 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,233 | Is this an Air Brake Truck? Speed, it may look like a roll-back, but it's miles away. The body is WAY to long for the wheelbase and the complete bed sub frame with lift and travel cylinders isn't there (at least I don't believe it is)! It would be easier to find a used body with all the parts and swap it in. Mike B | | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 | no on the air brakes. i wish it was a rollback but it would be too hard to shorten it and convert it over.
Scott, Bridgewater is in SW Iowa in between Greenfield and Atlantic.
Thanks for all the responses and comments
Brian | | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 | | | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,068 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,068 | Your second to last picture I believe is your hydrovac. It's to boost pressure to your brakes. The last picture is your vacuum shift for your two speed rear end which is actuated by the valve on your shifter. Do you want to sell her yet?(LOL) Sharp truck, with the exception of some holes in the bumper,
Scott
BTW, after a few days go by and everyone has had a chance to see these pictures, you'll probably be asked to post a link the the pictures to help save this sites bandwidth. Just thought I would give a friendly warning,
Scott | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 | I just hate it when the un-initiated weld on truck frames as in the hinge area photo. It's OK behind the axle as small tack welds but NEVER, EVER on the flanges as shown. Well at least we know Brian didn't do it. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 268 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 268 | Some links for ya to check out: My 1960 Chevy Viking L60 LCF {Sorry, I clicked on the wrong button} Burgie C-60 Truck Site Just some LCF Photos Your Vaccum shift should have a valve mounted to the frame just under the cab. Like some one pointed out the pic you labled as being the shift valve is the power booster for the brakes. I've got a 1953 Framall Super C and thought my truck would look good panted Farmall red with Farmall decals on the doors, then set it up to haul my tractor to shows, kinda like in the photo with a Farmall M on my Trailer . My truck has the short 121" wheelbase so it will be a good one to hual my gooseneck trailer. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 | Not sure how the link thing will work, the photos are hosted at photobucket.com and i think you have to be a member to view them. and not for sale as of right now haha.
Even though I'm only 21 years old, I know enough from working in a welding shop for 5 years not to weld on a truck frame! always bolt!
Thanks for the links jolly.
My dad mentioned something about using this truck to haul the antique tractors to shows as well, we have restored M and B farmalls, a 630 john deere, and just recently got a 560 farmall with a turbo to fix up. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 140 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 140 | How much do you think that this truck weighs?
Now boltless but looking
1951 F-1 350/350
1965 Mustang 355 glide
1971 F-100 401 fe it hates me
1972 Maverick 302 c4
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 | Mike;
I was only saying it looked,from the angle of the bed,like it was already trying to act like a rollback. If you want to make it a rollback I see wrecked or retired ones advertised fairly often.Problem is,they still bring pretty serious money,so you'd 'bout have to know somebody to get a real deal on one.
BTW-the engine looks like it could be a 327 to me,it has a four barrel,whick many of the 327's had,and MOST truck 283's I've seen have 2 barrel carbs. Of course the beauty of the old Chevies is that they're so interchangeable,it could be a 262,265,283,302,305,307,327,350,400,or a hybrid mix of any of the above.You'll have to find the block casting numbers,and the ID number on the machined pad at the front of the right head to know what it really is,if,in fact it really IS what it is. (HUH?)
speed | | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 | HEY-it has a RADIO!! Good find!
speed | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,893 Socket Breaker | | Socket Breaker Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,893 | | | | | | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 254 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 254 | had a look at the first pictures again and didn't notice the GEHL sticker behind the hood must of used to to haul skid loaders too, one sweet truck (i still have to say thought i like the '61 hood better, and them sexy curved windsheilds)
Nate | | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 164 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 164 | I just hate it when the un-initiated weld on truck frames as in the hinge area photo. It's OK behind the axle as small tack welds but NEVER, EVER on the flanges as shown. I see some Semis with this warning posted on them, and usually refer to the frame being heat-treated. But is this true for all trucks? Somehow I doubt that the old 'Bolts were heat-treated. And what about all the folks welding subframes onto the front end, boxing the frames, etc. etc???? | | | | | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 254 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 254 | i have also seen that warning on semis also just didn't come to mind but with the whole weldint sub frames and all that in is a good point on my '70 Chevy i had to weld in some 1/4" cold rolled plate steel to fix my frame cause it was cracked and rusted badly above the rear coils
Nate | | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 164 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 164 | Old Iron-
I looked a few places on the 'Net. It appears to me that welding is fine on 99% of trucks you and I would come in contact with.
It's only on certain very heavy trucks, such as the semis we see, that the frame is heat-treated. On those, they should not be welded.
I would be willing to bet that NONE of the 'bolts out there have heat-treated frames. Might be a good subject for discussion or tech tip.... | | |
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