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I just recently bought these parts,they are not here yet
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1152335&d=1290063980
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1152337&d=1290063980
but i was told its a cpp power steering kit, id like to keep my stock column can i do that? i would imagine you can but what rag joint,adapter, or shat will i need to do this? and is it bolt on or do i need to cut my steering shaft off my box and attach above item to it? i tied to search for a topic on this subject metter and didnt find one if there is im blind and im sorry thanks

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Hy bigtony55, you will have to come up with a shaft, rag joint, and a column that will end just outside the firewall, that way you will be able to connect to the steering box which you have mounted to the front of the left frame rail. This setup does require a bit of fabrication to complete the installation, and as usual there are many ways to achieve the same result, good luck.

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You'll need to cut your old colum and shaft shorter, do a little machine work on the end of the shaft. In the end of the column tube you install a bearing possibly with an adapter bushing.

Also make a mount to attach the column to the floor.

For the telescoping shaft and joints there are a lot of choices, I'd go with something like these
http://www.flamingriver.com/index.php/products/c0008

I used joints and a shaft from these folks http://www.borgeson.com/xcart/ and while they work just fine I think Flaming river will have a better quality product, and will try them next time.

Don't have a great picture of my setup, but I did use the original column.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2055030960080251109iezFAO

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Originally Posted by Grigg
You'll need to cut your old colum and shaft shorter, do a little machine work on the end of the shaft. In the end of the column tube you install a bearing possibly with an adapter bushing.

Also make a mount to attach the column to the floor.

For the telescoping shaft and joints there are a lot of choices, I'd go with something like these
http://www.flamingriver.com/index.php/products/c0008

I used joints and a shaft from these folks http://www.borgeson.com/xcart/ and while they work just fine I think Flaming river will have a better quality product, and will try them next time.

Don't have a great picture of my setup, but I did use the original column.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2055030960080251109iezFAO

Grigg
Thanks for the info by machine work to you mean cut and grove or notch it or make splines so the joint can grip the smooth round steering shaft?



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If you get double-D u-joints and intermediate shaft, you just have to grind flats on opposite sides of the original shaft so it fits in the first u-joint. If I'm not mistaken, the rag joint will be on the new steering box, not on the original shaft.
I believe kits are available for adapting the original steering column to a modern steering box. They have machined bearings and stop-rings to keep the steering shaft centered in the tube after the original box is cut off. Check with the vendors of the power steering kits.


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Originally Posted by bigtony55
Thanks for the info by machine work to you mean cut and grove or notch it or make splines so the joint can grip the smooth round steering shaft?
Correct, and as mentioned the simplest method is to use a u-joint with what they call a double D end on it, then you simply take the 3/4 shaft and mill flats on opposite sides so it fits, easy to do in the (milling machine) vice and about a 1/2" end mill, just bump both sides in the same setup, and the radius of the mill makes a nice transition back to round.

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Would this shaft from cpp work?http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k237/bigtony55/steeringcolumnshaftadapter.jpg they are running a sale these next 2 days so i wanna order up some stuff from them plus what size is the stock column shaft so i know what size column saver they offer 1.5",1.75" and 2"
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Bigtony, I wish I had the link but for now I don't. However, one of the vendor sites has a step by step on doing what your trying to do. It may be Classic Parts or CCP...I'm not sure. If you would check out a couple sites I think the pictures and instructions would help a lot. Worth the try......Mmmm, it may actually be here in the tech tips section...... I'm not at home or I could find the info and tell you right where to look.


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