Click on image for the lowdown. 
====
| | | Forums66 Topics128,162 Posts1,057,058 Members48,463 | | Most Online14,466 Apr 26th, 2026 | | AD Chevy Trucks Over 6,000 pictures Brad Allen has an awesome collection of Chevrolet factory pictures that he has set up from film strips. Check them out!
Lots of work on Brad's part ... pure enjoyment (and references) for you!
| | THANKS!
For helping keep this great
old truck web site
on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | |
#66333 09/24/2006 7:12 PM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 55 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 55 | I recently bought a 53 half ton as a non-running project. I also bought what I was told was a 62 235 with a 3 spd overdrive trans. Turns out its a 261 with a 3 spd overdrive. I'm planning to swap the 261 into the 53 but am concerned the existing torque tube driveline will not be the correct length. I've never dealt with a closed driveline before and am thinking I may have to go to an open drive line and a different rear end. I'd like to stay with at least 3.70 rear end ratio since I have the overdrive to lower rpm at highway speeds. What is the proven way to do the swap and do I need to convert to an open drive line and a different rear end and if so which rear end, if any, is a bolt up without too many modifications. Thanks in advance for helping out a newbie. jerry | | |
#66334 09/24/2006 11:11 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | If you can find a Task Force truck, the center section will bolt right into the 53's axle/carrier. It will give you an open drive and a 3.90 rear end ratio. This way there is no worry about relocating the axle and solving e-brake problems. You would have to do some welding where the axle mounts to the leaf spring as there is a pivot point there to make up for the rear u-joint that was not needed in the closed drive. You have to weld the axle. One of the Forum members made the switch and has a bunch of excellent step-by-step pictures. | | |
#66335 09/25/2006 3:09 AM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 55 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 55 | Task Force years are 55 thru 59?
I would appreciate a link to the forum member who made the switch and has shared the step-by-step in pictures. Thanks for your advice regarding the rear end change. It sounds pretty straightforward.
Some nomenclature I'm not familiar with: When you say center section I assume you mean the cast housing that holds the rear end gears? and when you talk about welding the axle I assume you are talking about welding the axle housing. What does one do about the driveshaft? Use a task force driveshaft? From the looks of my 3 spd/overdrive transmission it is a splined output that will take a short piece with the front section of the U-joint. Maybe all these questions are answered in the members pics and descriptions. Guess I should get familiar with the site and see if there are links to how-tos. | | |
#66336 09/25/2006 4:00 AM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | jbinwa, I have not actually did it yet but I do have my 55 "pumpkin" to go in my 52 Panel. The pumpkin, or third member, as we call them is to replace the section that comes out with the torque tube. I also have a drive shaft out of a 55 pickup that I will be using to hook up my V8. I understand my axles will work but there is some question as to whether I have to change the spider gears that the axles go into when sliding the axles back in. I "think" some said I would not even have to change the spider gears...which is no big deal as the little suckers just "roll out and in". Let us know how it comes out if you get yours going first!! It will be a month or so before I make the switch...after I get the body off my chassis. | | |
#66337 09/25/2006 4:09 AM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | Hey JB welcome to the Stovebolt. I drive past Woodland frequently. I had family stuff in Portland last weekend, next weekend I plan to attend the swap meet in Canby and will drive right past you to get there. Then both the following weekends I'm headed past.
Task Force trucks are the second '55 and on through '59 Chevrolets. GMC's were called Blue Chip I think.
A '62 transmission is going to require an open driveline, and the modifications to change it to support a closed driveline would not be worth the trouble.
I would suggest dealing with the axle mounting first. The torque-tube type axle pivots at the springs and on a closed driveline you need to have it firmly mounted to the springs. One common approach is to replace the torque tube differential with one from a TF that will work in your axle housing, but was designed for open driveline. Then simply weld the pivots solid to hold the axle in place.
If it were mine I'd swap the entire TF axle assembly instead of welding the brackets, but its your choice.
I don't know if a TF driveshaft is the correct length or not. Any competent machine shop can make a driveshaft to fit, though there are shops that specialize in it. I can name one in the Seattle area but I'm sure a Vancouver or Portland shop would be better for you.
I don't know which member already did this, but learn to use the search function and while you are digging through stuff that isn't quite what you wanted you'll also find lots of useful stuff.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | |
#66338 09/25/2006 4:21 AM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 55 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 55 | Thanks, your post clears things up a bit. I'm probably more than a month away as I work on a budget on car stuff (keeps a happy marriage)and my 36 Chev project is top priority or at least its supposed to be. The pickup is new to me so its getting my attention just now. I want to get it on its feet and running with the 261 and 3 spd/overdrive. and then figure out how far to take it. | | |
#66339 09/25/2006 4:28 AM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | My first car was a '36 Chevy! I sold it 30-some years ago and recently found it for sale on eBay. The seller turned out to be someone I used to know, and he had bought it from the guy I sold it to. This is me standing next to it a few months ago. [img] http://www.oldsub.com/images/2006/04/ColoradoTrip/100_0196sm.JPG[/img] I'd love to stop and see your projects sometime. Are you close to I-5? Keeping the wife happy is important. I'm building a truck for mine that she remains excited about. That helps quite a bit.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | |
#66340 09/25/2006 4:39 AM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 55 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 55 | I'm retired so am home quite a bit --except Wed. which is coffee and parts hunting day. Am sending address and cell ph. off site. You and others from the forum are welcome anytime cept Wed. I'm about 4 mi. east of Woodland off Hwy 503. Its about an 7 minute run from I-5 (exit 21) to our little acreage. | | |
#66341 09/25/2006 4:52 AM | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | Another option is the rear-end from a '55 first series. If you can get the springs, housing and all, it's a bolt in. No trying to weld cast iron. | | |
#66342 09/25/2006 5:03 AM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | Originally posted by cletis: Another option is the rear-end from a '55 first series. Since I own two of them you'd think I'd have thought of that... Jerry I know just where you are, and will plan to stop Saturday or Sunday.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | |
#66343 09/25/2006 5:37 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | The member who did the rear end swap and provided the photos goes under the name of 'steppenwood'. I don't have more than that but am certain he can be found thru the Forums. Hey old sub, that must have been a might big bird that dropped on top of that Chevy you are standing beside! | | |
#66344 09/25/2006 5:42 PM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | He said he was just tossing paint on it to protect it from rust. It sat outside through Idaho winters for years, and far as I know its still sitting just where that picture was taken.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | |
#66345 09/25/2006 6:52 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | | | |
| |