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#63515 07/27/2006 8:26 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 336 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 336 | I am looking into buying a Buick 350, Does any one know a lot about these motors? It actually in a 69 Jeep Gladiator, The owner had an adapter plate made and put on a Quadra jet carb.
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#63516 07/27/2006 10:28 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Great engines. They produce good power & strong torque. They weigh less than a small block Chev. & are very rugged. The only drawback is there is not much speed equipment available. The only aluminum intake I could find for the one in my skylark is Poston. It runs close to $300. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
#63517 07/27/2006 10:56 PM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | You'll have to use a BOP bolt pattern trans/bellhousing as it is different from Chevy engines. Any tranny from a Buick/Olds/Pontiac V-8 or Buick rear drive V-6 will work. Wrenchbender's right, not much speed parts, SOME parts will interchange from the V-6, though. Mainly front components like water pump and cam drive.
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#63518 07/28/2006 1:00 AM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 121 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 121 | www.v8buick.com Is your place for info on Buick engines.
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#63519 07/28/2006 3:31 AM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,068 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,068 | I think they have an external oil pump which is driven off of the front of the crankshaft. That would be their weak link I beleive. They're wider and heavier than a small block and more costly to rod. If you're dead set on using Buick, go with the 455, it's externally identical to the 350 but a whole lot more cubes, Scott | | |
#63520 07/28/2006 3:00 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 336 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 336 | Its actually in a 69 Jeep Gladiator truck that I was pondering on purchasing. It’s a running and registered project for $1200. The guy says it runs great but it has a valve sticking when it warms up. He called it a "Dauntless" Buick 350
I wouldn’t put a Buick motor in my bolt unless it was a 455. But my bolt is keeping its 235 until it dies. | | |
#63521 07/28/2006 8:35 PM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | Those are good motors, mostly. I wouldn't be shy. They make a whole lot more torque than an SBC. It would have been the original motor in that truck. Jeep used Buick engines from about 1966-72.
I had a CJ-5 with a Buick 225 V6 with a quadrajet manifold. It had enough torque to snap the spider gears in the front differential in low range.
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#63522 07/28/2006 8:52 PM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 58 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 58 | If you are interested in a Buick 455 I have a neighbor that has one in his garage for $150. (Kansas) It is missing the camshaft. They produce more torque than any other 455 out there. Perfect truck engines.
55 Cabover
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#63523 07/28/2006 10:00 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | The 455 is larger & heavier than the 350. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
#63524 07/28/2006 11:46 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 482 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 482 | Seems to me I heard those engines were used in a variety of applications including original Rovers and marine because they were goodies. | | |
#63525 07/29/2006 1:02 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | Learn something every day. Always thought a 350 Chevy was the same. My 81 Malibu has a 267" as does my 81 Buick Regal. I presume they are the same. | | |
#63526 07/29/2006 3:06 AM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | The Rover engine, which is still being produced, is the 215 aluminum Buick engine that was used on '61-'63 Specials, Olds F-85, and Pontiac Tempest. The V-6 was based on this engine as a replacement when GM sold the tooling to Rover. GM then sold the V-6 tooling to Kaiser for use in Jeep products, after tooling up a cast iron V-8 based on the V-6. In the '70s, during the "gas crisis", GM scrambled to get the V-6 tooling back from Jeep, which had been bought out by AMC by then. Unfortunatly, GM ended up retooling the engine, as the original tooling had been filled with concrete and used as filler in a plant floor by AMC. Ironic, aint it. By the way, very little, if any, parts from the Rover engine will work with the 300,340,350 Buick small block. I do beleive that the moderd efi intake will fit on the original 215 though. The big block Buicks differ from the small block mainly in deck hight and cylider casting thickness. Otherwise they are very similar, unlike other makes small and big blocks. By the way- oldblu, your Regal has a Chevy engine, the Buick V-8 was dicontinued in '76. For the most part, by the early '80s the small block Chevy had become the standard "corporate" engine in most of GMs products, with the 307" Old hanging on to the late '80s.
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#63527 07/29/2006 7:28 AM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 482 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 482 | Outstanding info. If only my memory wasn't shot I'd know alot of stuff... | | |
#63528 07/29/2006 8:33 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 | ....I used ta know all dat stuff... Speed | | |
#63529 07/30/2006 11:46 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | Longbox 55 thanks. One reason I bought that Buick was because it had the same engine as my Malibu, which just goes and goes and goes. Very high mileage on it now, near half a million kilometers. | | |
#63530 07/31/2006 12:20 AM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 132 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 132 | Originally posted by LONGBOX55: The Rover engine, which is still being produced, is the 215 aluminum Buick engine that was used on '61-'63 Specials, Olds F-85, and Pontiac Tempest. Small addition here, the Buick version of this engine had very different heads, the traditional (at that time) 'nailhead design. Easily identified by the vertical valve covers. The piston were also different because of the head design.. You can put the Olds pistons in a Buick and get 11.5 compression. Nice back then, but not on todays gas! The Tempest used the Buick version.
The V-6 was based on this engine as a replacement when GM sold the tooling to Rover.
The v6 was offered as the base engine (except for Pontiac, who used a 1/2 a 389 V8 slant 4) with the aluminum v8 an option. The v6 was always cast iron though.
GM then sold the V-6 tooling to Kaiser for use in Jeep products, after tooling up a cast iron V-8 based on the V-6. In the '70s, during the "gas crisis", GM scrambled to get the V-6 tooling back from Jeep, which had been bought out by AMC by then. Unfortunatly, GM ended up retooling the engine, as the original tooling had been filled with concrete and used as filler in a plant floor by AMC. Ironic, aint it. By the way, very little, if any, parts from the Rover engine will work with the 300,340,350 Buick small block. I do beleive that the moderd efi intake will fit on the original 215 though.
The later version of the v6 was even fire, the basis for the GM corporate 3.8 engine. The early ones were odd fire. The cranks were just 3/4 of a v8 with the 90 degree throws.'
The big block Buicks differ from the small block mainly in deck hight and cylider casting thickness. Otherwise they are very similar, unlike other makes small and big blocks. By the way- oldblu, your Regal has a Chevy engine, the Buick V-8 was dicontinued in '76. For the most part, by the early '80s the small block Chevy had become the standard "corporate" engine in most of GMs products, with the 307" Old hanging on to the late '80s. | | |
#63531 07/31/2006 12:24 AM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 132 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 132 | Originally posted by 48bigtrucks: I think they have an external oil pump which is driven off of the front of the crankshaft. That would be their weak link I beleive.
They do have an eternal oil pump in the front cover. It is driven by the cam like most all v type engines of the day. Not a weak point at all. As a matter of fact it makes a pump or relief valve upgrade easier.
They're wider and heavier than a small block and more costly to rod.
If this is a nail head design, I think you will find the weight to be very similar to a small block, maybe a little lighter, width about the same but a touch longer.
If you're dead set on using Buick, go with the 455, it's externally identical to the 350 but a whole lot more cubes, Scott | | |
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