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Yep, about the same price here too. I was too cheap to put $300 of finish on a $250 pair of headers, but I do like the "wet" look. They look as smooth as glass! Do you know how long it should last? I would guess forever if it isn't chipped somehow? Any idea how thick the porcelian is? Must be fairly thick judging from how it flows in the pores of the castings?

not sure how thick but it is smooth.I have noticed that the casting on the original Fenton's is alot smoother than the repo's.As far as how long it will last,people told me just dont get them wet and they will last a long time.

I had mine ceramic coated with "chromex" at Performance Coatings in Auburn Wa for $200.
I made the mistake of having them coated before I fit them with the intake. It didn't chip during the grinding. It came of just like it was part of the iron. Even after a couple of years and a few thousand miles, they still look pretty good.

I personally do not like the silver/chrome look because it's not vintage looking so I spent the buck's(ouch).They charge $18 per pound but there is a $300 minimum.I just sent out some OG Fenton's(with heat chamber),a Vette manifold and a Hollywood deep tone.That's going to be a hefty bill.

Before and After. I did a general cleaning and a light polish of the Edelbrock logo and bars. I removed paint from the articulating assembly and what a pleasant surprise! The PO had aluminum arms made out of stock bar. I also polished up the round bar, looks a lot better w/o the black paint.

There is enough material on the aluminum casting to do a serious polishing but it wouldn't be in character with my truck. Does anyone have knowledge of the polishing process...possibly close up photos?

Also, I intend to use 2 - Carter Webbers and plan on fabbing my own 4 bolt to 2 bolt adapters. Has anyone done this? The adapter that Tom Landon sells @ Stovebolt Engine Co. has extra holes that float in the breeze. I suppose this area could be cut off and ground/filed to look a little better.

Does anyone know where I could find different lengths of those ball and socket arm assemblies that attach to the carb throttles?

That look's great!The next vintage set up will just have the fresh casted look like your's.As far as the arm's,try Vintage speed in Florida.Also,please dont ruin that beautiful intake with those modern carb's,they really look out of place on old truck's/car's.You can get the old stuff to run right,just take's a little tinkering/knowledge.

Have any of you fellow Bolters come up with a good, sound plan for setting up solid linkage on any of the older intakes that are not equipped with solid linkage provisions? :confused: I would still like to be able to do that on some of the nice older intakes. Any thoughts or ideas?

Joe

Great question Joe! My builder is skilled at fabricating such things. But that's the key, finding someone who can do it or has done it and sharing info. It will be a while before we get to that point, but I'll be posting pics as soon as it happens. That's if you find me an Edmunds

Barry and I have talked about it a few times and have some idea's.

Jaime, Barry and I have talked a few times and have some ideas, too. We need to try and get the ideas into the hands of someone that can help us.

Joe

Hey Guys - it's me again -
Have any of you tried to run the Offenhauser two bolt adapters on your 2 X 1 intake which allows you to use Stromberg two barrel carburetors, thus giving you a 2 X 2 set up? This, to me, is a way to get 4 barrel power and still keep the vintage look. Comments?

Joe

any body else???

Joe,I have an Edmund's intake that is made for the 3 bolt dorf/stromberg carb's.I have an NOS 261 shortblock that I would like to combine it with someday and stick it in a 55 1st series pickup.

Jaime -

I've got one of those Edmunds, also. The thing that I don't like about it is the path the water line has to take to enter the intake. It runs right across the top of the intake and it covers the beauty of the intake. That's why I posed the question regarding the adapters. Don't you agree that intake is pretty bad looking with the line across it? Of course, it is a 50's intake and performance was the idea!

I guess a guy could try to use some other fittings to get the water in another way....h-m-m-m-m.

Joe

If Barry is around, maybe he can post pics of his Edmunds w/ water heat. I haven't seen the pic in a while but I remember it being a BEAUTIFUL set-up. I think he ran the water line under the intake and/or headers which is what I plan to do. Barry? BTW, how did you do your linkage?

I think maybe you have me confused with Bill Schickling. He has the absolutely beautiful Edmunds setup with the Edmunds intake, valve cover and air cleaners. In fact, I have a pic of Bill's engine as my screen saver on my garage computer.

Bill's website: http://home.twcny.rr.com/schickling/1940Chevy/index.html

Yeah, that's it. Sorry Barry - mistaken identity.

What, Barry? You have a computer in your garage? Holy smokes!! If I did that, I would never have to come in the house! Far out!

Joe

Well Joe, I work in my garage machine shop full time, so I have A/C, heat, TV, stereo, CD player etc.. The garage computer only has CAD programs on it, no internet hookup, otherwise I would get nothing done out there. Same reason I don't have cable TV, I could watch the SPEED channel and drink beer all day long reeaalll easy.

I coming over this year some time Barry to Shoot the **** about old 6 speed equipment and drink beer.

Sounds like a plan Jaime!

I would love to be there with both of you guys for that visit, but since it probably won't happen, I want a written report on my desk top on the Monday morning following that infamous "visit" - from both of you!

Joe

Yes Sir!

no way,you must attend to absorbe the knowledge Barry has in his brain!

I'll mail Joe a letter telling him everything I know, I should be able to fit that on the back of the stamp.
What would be really cool is to have a "show and tell" sometime of 6-cyl. speed equipment. It would be too hard to do in person since we are spread out all over, but I'm sure it could easily be done online with everyone posting pics of odd vintage Chev/GMC speed equipment (or other makes even) and any info, they have on it. I'm sure there's some old aluminum laying around out there that I've never even heard of and it would be neat to see pics at least.

Guys, sorry I'm late to this thread. I have a set of INLINERS al. 235/261 covers made by Inliners founder Charlie Baker and I know he only made a few sets. Also the real vintage speed guru in central Calif is Carl Schmid, shows up at Turlock in Jan, and there is a line so speak with him.

Best show and tell, make the next or any Inliners Convention, few years back was 4 days around Sacramento was orgasmic.
gotta run
jim

Update. I'm having Steve from Buffalo Enterprises fab on dedicated 4 bolt plates onto my Edelbrock manifold for the 2-2 bbl Carter-Webers I purchased from Tom Langdon.

I realize this is sacrilege but I'm only concerned with the person I see in the mirror. Besides, Steve and Tom have forgotten more than I'll ever learn about these engines and it's 'cool' with them.

I see myself as a 'test pilot' for ideas such as,....... Tom's H-W I've had on for 7-8 years has worked flawlessly, the 'x-pipe' I installed two years ago has not only quieted the rap but seems to give a little more power going up the long hills here in the piedmont region of central VA. Staying with the test pilot theme I am a year round driver, my '49 is my only vehicle so I experience 100+ degree days idling in traffic as well as sub-freezing temps. Cheers, Cosmo.

Here is a pic of my future setup. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2707427390071636143zZwPOS
I still have yet to polish the carbs and intake.

Alright, you guys have my curiosity up. I'm in the midst of an engine rebuild (early stages), and I don't really care for the look of the dual Carter-Webers that Tom sells. I'm also not too keen on using the Rochester B's because they seem to be nothing but trouble. Strombergs seem to be hard to come by.

I've got an Offy 2x1 manifold and Fenton headers, and I'd like to find a one bbl carb that works on that combo and is reliable.

Weber makes a 1bbl that I'm trying to find out more about - it's a 34 ICH . Has anyone tried one? Will it mount on that manifold? Would I need an adapter?

How about a pair fo W1 Carters easy to come by and trouble free.

I don't think the Strombergs are that hard to come by. I've picked up 4 in the last month. 1 was free, 2 matching carbs for $20., and for the NOS one I paid $65. I am still looking for a match for that one. Maybe in a few weeks I'll be eating my words.

Well, the machinist who is doing the block and head work has stated that he won't warranty the engine with the dual 2bbl Carter-Webers, because he's concerned about fuel washing the cylinder walls. Not sure I agree with him, but losing his warranty is a big deal to me.

I investigated the Weber 34 ICH carb. The throat is 1.34 inches, just slightly smaller than the Rochesters. But the bolt holes are 2.5 inches apart, whereas the Offy manifold has a 2.9375 inch (center to center) spacing, so I'd have to have an adapter fabricated for each carb. Plus it's a cable-pull throttle, so that would take some work to setup the linkage.

I found a guy ( online ) who rebuilds Rochesters to factory OEM settings, including a very nice zinc-chromate finish. So, I'm leaning toward sticking with the setup I have (one Rochester B and one Rochester BC) and having Sparky restore them to like-new condition. Since I already have the linkage, and the carbs are "authentic" to the era, it seems like the best way to go, despite all the problems people seem to have with these carbs. Maybe Sparky can make them last 100,000 miles. I'd be happy with that. I talked to him today. He really seems to know Rochesters inside and out.

Hey everyone!

I don't get to the stovebolt page very often anymore. I just made my way back after many months. I'm sorry I missed this whole conversation. I went back and read through most of it.

A couple of things. I was contacted by a person that has a solution for the intakes with no linkage support. He must be around here somewhere, he contacted me after seeing my website in a thread on the stovebolt page.

And back to an earlier part of the thread. Here are some pictures of my Stovebolt engine company side cover I found. Since I can't seem to find and Edmunds to go with everything else edmunds on my engine, I am using this.

http://home.twcny.rr.com/schickling/1940Chevy/rebuild/DSCN1105.JPG

http://home.twcny.rr.com/schickling/1940Chevy/rebuild/DSCN1106.JPG

I wish I could hang around more. I'll have to try to get back into the habit.

Oh and I've never had a higher compliment than being mistaken for Barry Weeks. If only.

Bill, that's TOO cool!!! I want one. I'm planning on using a wayne cover that I have, but would much rather have that one. Did McGurk make a side cover? That would go nice w/ the intake I'll be using. Don't worry Joe, I'll be using that Edmunds on my 235 when I build my next hot rod w/ my son.

Wow, Bill! That Stovebolt side cover may be a collector's item in it's own right! That is the side cover that D!ck Larrowe offered when he owned Stovebolt Engine Co. before he sold it to Tom Langdon. I don't remember what year they "made their deal", but it has to be a good 10 to 12 years ago, maybe longer. Anybody know or remember?

Regarding side covers - sometime back on this subject, in fact this thread, we named off all of the aftermarket intakes made back in the early days of hot rodding. What about side covers? I saw the question asked a few notches up - did McGurk ever make a side cover? Anybody know or remember? Let's include both the 216 tall covers and the 235-261 short covers! 1-2-3 go!

California Bill (tall), Nicson (Short), Fenton (short). That's it for me!

More?

Joe

Welcome back Bill! Last time we heard from you, weren't you shovelling 843" of snow off your roof? That was awhile ago!

I'm sadly lacking in the sidecover dept. Joe. I only have a tall Nicson and a short Offenhauser (fake). I do know of a NOS tall Sharp that I would give my left noogie for and maybe my right if necessary.

I did make a trade for an aluminum "Chevrolet" script valvecover a month or so ago. I guess **** Larrowe made them some years back? Anyone know for sure?

Edit: Won't let me spell the short name for Richard, you all know who I mean.

Noogie? Is that what they are called in MN? :p

Yep, it gets a lot colder here and they freeze and become noogies.

I've got '51 and '58 McGurk catalogs and neither one lists a sidecover. A "polished aluminum valve cover" is listed though, with no photo.

Bob

Barry,

Yes this winter I was one big noogie. Going into the 90's here for the next day or so tough.

Between you and Joe you guys have had that much rain this year.

I showed Tom Langdon a picture of my side cover and he had never seen one before.

I like it because it says stovebolt! It was raw aluminum when I got it and sent it out for polishing. I wish now I had waited. The polishing took away some of the crispness of the original casting.

That side cover casting in the links is the same as my Clifford I got earlier this year.
Only difference is the 'Chevrolet' script logo.
They also have the matching valve cover with the chevy script logo.

Personally I like to have the same name as the engine make on the covers.
I am also rather glad that the PO of my McGurk intake had the logo removed during polishing by accident.

I like to keep the raw cast surface on my covers, polish only the fin tips and logo and just treat it with Gibbs.

Btw: There is another Harper 3x2 intake on ebay right now, complete with Stromberg 94 carbs!
I love the simple look of those.