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Trev, for all that's it worth for a 72 year old truck it's really not that bad if that's the only problems it has, hopefully it will all come together soon for you. Im sure between you and your buds it will get taken care of and you'll be driving that gem in no time cool

Leonard, I had the same problems with my rear disc brakes as your having with your fronts I finally ended up getting them done with a power bleeder it worked out great.
Also my problem was a bad booster I was thinking it was the prop valve but after I did a little more researching (on the bolt) I FINALLY fixed them...at last ! grin

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Originally Posted by tabdoo16
Trev, for all that's it worth for a 72 year old truck it's really not that bad if that's the only problems it has, hopefully it will all come together soon for you. Im sure between you and your buds it will get taken care of and you'll be driving that gem in no time cool


I agree... for a 72 year old truck she is in pretty good shape although I'd love to know more of the history on the old beast...

It was discovered the other day that the frame has been cut behind the cab and welded onto a lighter pickup truck frame which kinda makes sense... when I ran the numbers originally she came back as a 1.5 ton dually, not a 1/2 ton... now it's beginning to make sense why... wink

Tomorrow morning I'll bring all the brake parts in to be machined, but at this point am much more concerned with the king pins and bushings... according to Dave, we should remove the whole front axle and bring it in to some machine shop so those two items can be replaced... sounds like pretty major "surgery" but I know nothing about any other way of doing it... does anyone else?

I guess that will be the next issue... eek

Anyway for 72 she's pretty fit and a nice old truck so hopefully she can see some windshield time on the road this summer and make it to a couple of shows... can't wait! smile

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good luck again this week trev.
tabdoo, thanks for your input on my leaks and problems.

trev, i have heard that king pins are a pain, but never did any myself personally. i had mine installed when i got my new front axle. i can imagine it would be a pain.

and to the administrator, again, i am sorry i goofed and made a small refrence tot he canadian weather.

i too love this site. i am a memebr to a few others, but only have a few posts on them. this site is the best witht he greatest bunch of knowledgable guys with unlimited knowledge.

i have learned so much from this site in only the past 4 motnhs.

i will try my luck again on mine today and hopefully get the bugs worked out.

god luck trev..leonard


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In regards to the king pins, as usual 3B has been a great source of information... he was kind enough to send me the following which I will add to this post for future reference and in case anyone else ever requires this information...

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Whether or not the axle "has" to be removed to work on it depends on a few things, kingpins can be a real bear to remove sometimes, so it might be nice to take it out, so you can take it to a press to remove the kingpins, without the pins removed you can't measure them to see if they are standard or oversize, so you don't know which parts to order [if you can find them], if the axle bore is worn it will have to be machined oversize, so it would have to come out to be machined.

I would not remove the axle until I at least tried to remove the kingpins with it in place. If the axle ultimatly has to come out, you must replace the "U" bolts, most spring shops either have access to or can fabricate new "U" bolts, hope that helps.

and as usual it DOES help... thanks Bobb... Hopefully we can avoid pulling out the axle when the time comes! Much appreciated! grin

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trev,
believe it or not, taking the entire axle is not that bad. you will have everything off anyway, all you will need to do it pull the 4 u-bolts, 8 nuts, and 2 shocks off and it would be so much easier doing on a bench instead of under the truck.

just my 2 cents worth...good luck.

i am gonna try to bleed my system in the morning.

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Just got back in from the shop... they're gonna take care of everything and I feel confident they'll do it right... I think they've been working on brakes since the horse and buggy era, have a good reputation and are fairly reasonable on price too...

I asked for a ballpark estimate and was told the grand total for everything should be around $120 and they should be ready for pick up by wednesday... not too shabby! grin

Hopefully next weekend dave will have a little time to pop over and reinstall them since it's only the rear brakes going back in... I guess that's the time we'll make a decision about whether the front axle is coming out... if so I'm going to have to find a good shop that does king pins as well! eek

Leonard, with all your knowledge you should be here getting your hands dirty too, not basking in the sunshine down in florida! It ain't right! lol wink

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LOL.
hey, im am now officially unemployed, laid off last week,so i could use a northern vacation. LOL.

i removed my original front axle and installed my 3 inch dropped axle, but will admit that i did not want to tackle the king pins, so i had sid, the guy i bought the dropped axle from, had him install all new king pins before he sent it all to me. i didnt want to get myself into a situation where i would be stuck at something i have never done before, and need special reamers and such.

good luck with everything, sounds liek you got a plan and some good friends helping you out.

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OH!! Trev you mentioned the weather again nono grin

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You know better than that Trev.. nono NOTHING BUT TRUCK TALK ! Your not part of the boy's club ! dang
And only $120 from a reputable shop.. that's not too bad, When you go to pick everything up ask them if they know of a shop that will do the King Pins I bet they do, Hopefully everything works out good with the brakes this weekend and that's all that will be left !







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It's a brake shop only? I don't think I've ever heard of one that does brakes only.


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Todd: Boyd just tipped me off that one of his drag racing buddies from the track had his kingpins done at a shop that is an offshoot of Lordco auto parts here who I use anyway...

I had no idea they even HAD a shop that does work like this but apparently they do... I now have an address and contact info for them although as stated it would sure be great to find some way NOT to take the whole front end apart and just do the kingpins with the front end as it is... I guess we'll see...

As for "this weekend" I have no idea if that's when it will go down although I really hope so... however it's not my schedule I'm concerned with... it's all up to Dave and his schedule...

Mine is open and Boyd is out of town for a couple weeks for the marriage of his daughter, so it's just up to Dave this time around... smile

jdl: the shop in question JUST remanufactures and machines brakes and brake parts... they have done so for about 50 years as far as I know and as I said are very well known and reputable... it must pay to specialize because everyone knows about their shop and they're considered the best there is by most... they're also very reasonable... smile

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Ah, kinda like there are doctors that specialize. I understand.


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We're all talking about my brakes and other truck issues, Fred... the only one not adding anything constructive to this topic is you.

As you said just the other day,

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you have been on my butt way to long, time for you to get off of it and ride on........

we have been thru this rodeo before, time for you to get bucked off and take your tail back into your garage

Now, that aside, back to truck business and this topic, hopefully with no more interuptions? Thank you fred... !

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It would be an even more beautiful day if the shop has an e-brake cable that we can make work... we removed the old one and it is interesting to say the least... Just talked to the shop and they're having a hard time matching it... they're also having difficulty finding a match to a broken off stud on one of the drums...

Who knew finding parts that would fit a 72 year old truck would be so much fun? eek

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Originally Posted by 37ChevyTruckGuy
We're all talking about my brakes and other truck issues, Fred... the only one not adding anything constructive to this topic is you.

Originally Posted by 37ChevyTruckGuy
It would be an even more beautiful day if the shop has an e-brake cable that we can make work...

Trev, you mentioned the days forecast. You should know better then that! :mad:

Im TELLING! frown

BTW, have you found your parts yet? grin


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darn... foiled again, Jeff! lol

No it's the brake shop that is looking for the generic e-brake cable and stud to replace the broken off one... I'll know later today or tomorrow if they were able to find one...

The only parts I have bought in the past 24 hours were on ebay. Last night I won a nice glovebox door with a vintage 1 day windup automotive clock in it that will fit either the '36 or '37...

Once it gets here I think I'll paint it in grey hammered finish like the dash in the '37 and transplant it into there... should look cool! cool

Still crossing my fingers on the brake related stuff as I'm supposed to pick it up tomorrow... with any luck we can get the rear brakes finished sometime this week before pulling out the front axle and moving on to the king pin adventure! eek

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Trev, if you need some unavailable parts try these guys. You can look it up directly by part number and they have a huge inventory.

http://www.collectorsautosupply.com/

Ive bought from them several times and theyve been real good with nice parts.

Good luck, Jeff


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