The Stovebolt Site Forums The Shop Area Interiors 2-Point Bench Seat Belt Install; for AD's?

Want to install 2-point mounting seat belts for my '51 Chev 1/2 truck. Need length instructions for lap belts for my bench seat. I also thought about putting in wind up type belts. Can somebody help me on this? I don't want 3-point belts. Don't want to drill big holes above. Don't know exactly what length to get for the ones that I want. And what is the best supplier to get the belts that I want? Need help on this. Thankyou...

juliano's for belts:
http://www.julianos.com/seat_belts.html
if you are a remotely big guy you may not like the length of jcwhitney's belts shoulder harness
these are things you should consider b4 ......
BESIDES
the small floor area that you would use to hold the belts to the floor have several advavtages. the seat support rim above the floor helps to stiffen that area and you could also add a small plate below the floor, welded or not. the area where the shoulder harness bolts to is down in that deep pocket area that has many different angles for rigidity.

seat frame access tip
http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h298/1951otter/?action=view&current=IMG018.jpg

dave's site for installation:
http://www.speedprint.com/Deves50/seatbeltassembly.php

I bought 74" belts from Truck & RV Supply on e-Bay. Paid ten bucks for them. Now they're $14. Also have 90" abaialable for $15.

I purchased seat(lap) belts but haven't installed them yet. Not sure I'm going to as seems to be needless at the parade speeds I'm driving. I'm watching your thread just incase I change my mind and want to put them in.

Brown but I'm still looking at the install issues. Not for sale yet anyway...

I just mounted new standard OFF THE SHELF 2 point lap belts in my 1951 3100. It was a breaze. I bought 2 pair (left and right from Advanced Auto Parts (black in color) 60" length (max), the belt kits are about $15.00 each and come with all the neccessary mounting hardware, belts, L brackets, bolts, dimpled flat washers, and nuts. It only requires determining proper location, a drill/bits and wrenches to install them. Location of the belts was determine sitting on the bench seat centered in front of the steering wheel and placing small pieces of masking tape on the seat BACK, where the seat back and seat cushion meet an inch or so on either side of my hips. Remove the seat cushion bottom, and use the tape locations to establish approxamately where the belts should extend to the floor pan. Slide the seat frame all the way to the rear position, mark a straight line on the floor pan in line with each tape mark on the rear seat back and locate a drill point about 2-3 inches forward of the rear seat frame. Carefully drill a small pilot hole ensuring that the drill does not hit any frame or mechanisms UNDER the floor pan. If all is clear underneath, drill a hole the diameter of the seat belt bolts and install the mounting brackets with the hardware provided in the kit as per instructions preferably with the L bracket vertical portion towards the rear. Repeat this procedure for the passenger side, or duplicate the position of the holes using a tape measure. Some adjustment of the overall length of the straps can be made at the L bracket when you loop the belt material through the bracket (as per the instruction pamphlet)to achieve your optimum length and look. I mounted mine with both push button release straps towards the center of the seat, with the flange end to the outer. The install was simple, and took about an hour. Other colors of these belts are available at most parts stores.

I just mounted new standard OFF THE SHELF 2 point lap belts in my 1951 3100. It was a breaze. I bought 2 pair (left and right from Advanced Auto Parts (black in color) 60" length (max), the belt kits are about $15.00 each and come with all the neccessary mounting hardware, belts, L brackets, bolts, dimpled flat washers, and nuts. It only requires determining proper location, a drill/bits and wrenches to install them. Location of the belts was determine sitting on the bench seat centered in front of the steering wheel and placing small pieces of masking tape on the seat BACK, where the seat back and seat cushion meet an inch or so on either side of my hips. Remove the seat cushion bottom, and use the tape locations to establish approxamately where the belts should extend to the floor pan. Slide the seat frame all the way to the rear position, mark a straight line on the floor pan in line with each tape mark on the rear seat back and locate a drill point about 2-3 inches forward of the rear seat frame. Carefully drill a small pilot hole ensuring that the drill does not hit any frame or mechanisms UNDER the floor pan. If all is clear underneath, drill a hole the diameter of the seat belt bolts and install the mounting brackets with the hardware provided in the kit as per instructions preferably with the L bracket vertical portion towards the rear. Repeat this procedure for the passenger side, or duplicate the position of the holes using a tape measure. Some adjustment of the overall length of the straps can be made at the L bracket when you loop the belt material through the bracket (as per the instruction pamphlet)to achieve your optimum length and look. I mounted mine with both push button release straps towards the center of the seat, with the flange end to the outer. The install was simple, and took about an hour. Other colors of these belts are available at most parts stores.

I thank you also!

I bought lap belts from one of the repop sellers. Classic Parts of America, I think. Then I went on Ebay and bought three sets of the old spring wound chrome windup devices that slip over the belt and retract the fabric of the belt. The ones I bought had the "flip-up to release" tab and not a pushbutton. I installed three belts across my seat and there is plenty of slack with the exception of the middle belt. What I did is buy grade 8 flat washers, 3" diameter I think and fairly thick. I drilled through the floor under the seat right at the back inner part of the seat frame. One on each of the outsides of the seat frame for the female flip-up ends and then two more closer inside the rear of the frame for the driver and right side passenger male ends. I then installed the middle passenger belt under those inner bolts for the male ends of the other two belts. Each was bolted through the inside floor with a grade 8 bolt sized to fit the hole in the belt end, through the belt end hole, then a lock washer, then one large flat washer. Then on the underside of the floor, another large flatwasher, lockwasher and the nut. With the exception of a snug fit for one of my friends with a larger belly who sits in the middle seat, the driver and outer passenger have plenty of room in the repop belts. Very snug and seem to have plenty of strength to hold you back in the case of a panic stop.

When I did the interior of my '56, I used a 60-40 center seat from a '99 Tahoe that was tight against my cab corners so 3-pt. belts were not an option. I converted the 3-pt. shoulder belts to lap belts by cutting the retractor belts and having the belt ends resewn. That way I didn't trash out the interior with loose belts lying on the seats. The retractors were mounted to the floor in the cab corners at the rear of the seats. Note that the retractors you use may act weird and lock up if not oriented straight up-and-down as you work with them. The button-end of the belts in my truck were attached to the seat but on original seats that end would have to be mounted to the floor and brought up through the crack. Just an idea.

Don't know exactly how long my belts were. Just got them from the vendor. They worked fine. If you want me to measure what I bought, let me know.

I just bought standard black seat belts and bolted them to the floor. You adjust the length when you're sitting on the seat. They work good.

I don't want excess seat belt length laying all over the seat. What kind or style of bracket did you use...or would work best? For AD's that is...My Chev P/U is a 1951...and has the stock (1/2-ton,3100) bench seat inside. And speaking of seats...What vendor would have the BEST stuffing or pads to build up my seat before I upholster them?

This is basically what I used to keep the belts on my bench seat neat and tidy. You can buy these all day long on Ebay. They clip on to each belt after you wind up the spring and retract to roll the belt up. Works great!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Vint...076QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

Thanks 49 geezer!

I finally put the lap belts in because my wife wouldn't allow my grand daughter to go for a ride without her child sdafety seat. I guess I can't blame her for that...

Link: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2497502280080243953LkQqGg

I just installed 2 point belts in my AD. I cut two rectangular slots in the back of the seat base to bring the inner ends through. If you don't do that, they will be looped around the seat and this is not a good thing. The ones I first installed were new and not counting the latch, they were 58" in length. That gave me about 1" to spare, not enough. The set I have in there now is about 66" in length.

I didn't measure mine but they fit around my body just fine. I'll have to look at the routing again to ensure they are clear of any problem areas.

I'm ready to buy seat belts! This thread has helped me a lot. Looks like mounting belts on a 56 should not be too difficult. Appears enough room to drill and bring them up through the seat. Has anyone mounted the three point? I'm considering it - would like them, but just where and how to mount #3 on the bulkhead seems vague. Maybe not a good idea, but if anybody has done it I would like to know how you did it - a picture would be great. Hope you don't mind me using your thread for this question diditanole - seemed right on target -- Thanks for starting it! -- Dale

No, not at all! Thanks for your input...and your very welcome. ...diditanole

keep the threads coming in. Thanks, diditanole

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i wrote a piece about just this issue a while ago w/ AD original seats. here is a pic of how to overcome this issue
http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h298/1951otter/?action=view&current=IMG018.jpg
I'm now going to use 1993 ford astro van third row seats that fold down. i have moved my gas tank out
to under the bed. this seat will allow me to have
more room . while you're at it you may wish to get more
room from under the seat like this. it's pretty simple.
http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h298/1951otter/?action=view&current=DSC00492_0008.jpg
http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h298/1951otter/?action=view&current=0449220-R1-032-14A.jpg
http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h298/1951otter/?action=view&current=0449220-R1-030-13A.jpg
>> for three point assy in AD trucks
http://www.speedprint.com/deves50/seatbeltassembly.php