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#23638 05/20/2004 2:59 PM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 21 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 21 | HELP -- my truck is stuck in the garage on jack stands waiting for tires. I stripped the old tires off the 18" split rims and now I can't find any new ones (traction tread type).
I am considering going to one piece rims, the taller the better as the 1-ton dually has the over sized fenders.
I have searched the stovebolt pages and it looks like 16" rims with a 235R16 tire will work as well as a 7.50R16. Any other ideas or experience? A larger rim would be preferred.
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#23639 05/20/2004 3:14 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | Your truck wouldn't be a 1 1/2 Ton , would it ? Does it have duals on the back ? I am under the impression that the large fenders started with the 1 1/2 Ton. | | |
#23640 05/20/2004 3:46 PM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | The problem with the modern rims is the setback is too deep. You end up with tires running into the tie rod ends on the front and need a 2" spacer to correct the issue.
I am running a pair of 16" rims from a 91 on the rear of my 3/4 ton. There is about an inch of clearance between the tire and frame. This is with a 7.50R16 tire, tallest my tire man could get me.
Another option is to go with aftermarket rims. Montana Andy found some white spokes with the right setback that are made for trailers.
Fred 52 3600 69 C-10
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#23641 05/20/2004 6:25 PM | Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 188 Member | | Member Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 188 | I just found some 16X6" 8 lug rims at a local trailer shop. I'm picking them up tomorrow, so I'll post the info. They have 4" of back spacing and the ridge?? around the outside edge of the hub cap. It looks like the hub cap clips can be rivited or bolted on easily, so they should look just like the stock rims .I'm looking at 235/85r16 e rated tires that are 31.8" tall. I have looked at the early 90's ***d rims,but they have the hudge ridges for the ***d hub caps. I haven't been able to find the rims Wally/Montana posted. | | |
#23642 05/20/2004 11:37 PM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 21 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 21 | thanks for the ideas and info. answer to truckernix, yes my 51 is a dually, the VIN lookup says its a 1-ton model 3800. I might be wrong in thinking its the oversize fenders - thought I read somewhere where the 1-ton is oversized -- they look like it. below is a link to a picture of my truck (I have not figured out how to place it here on the post). http://geocities.com/gocountry99/ | | |
#23643 05/21/2004 12:06 AM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,068 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,068 | How many lug nuts per wheel does it have? Scott | | |
#23644 05/21/2004 1:14 AM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 90 Member | | Member Joined: May 2003 Posts: 90 | So I take it this will no longer be a dually with the trailer wheels? Or is the trailer wheels for heavy duty applications?
Thanks,
Brent | | |
#23645 05/21/2004 2:57 AM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 21 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 21 | All six are 18" split rims and are 8 lug. they had 700x18 traction tires on the back four wheels -- that is what I was hoping to replace them with but found out they are not available. Only street tires (a ribbed tread pattern)seem to be available.
If I replace the split rims I definitely want to keep the dual wheel set-up. | | |
#23646 05/21/2004 3:26 AM | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 608 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 608 | blue if this helps came across a matched set of 4 goodyear 8-19.5 highway tred tires on 8lug gm bud wheels. stored in a bsmt. was looking foR A SET OF 17,S FOR MY 1 TON.THE GUY THOUGHT THEY WHERE 17.S | | |
#23647 05/21/2004 4:19 AM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 21 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 21 | thanks stevesr, appreciate the offer but really need the traction tires here in Montana. We use the truck in the woods and get hay -- sometimes the roads get nasty. | | |
#23648 05/23/2004 12:11 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | I am sure that I saw an add for these type of tires, it may have been the name "Lucas". If I find something, I will post it. That is a nice looking truck, pretty pumped looking! | | |
#23649 05/24/2004 8:02 PM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 21 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 21 | I'M GIVING IT UP ON FINDING REPLACEMENT TIRES (TRACTION TREAD DESIGN) FOR 18" SPLIT RIMS.
They do not exist according to everyone I have called (per a lot of suggestions, thanks): Miller Tire/Ohio, Lucas Automotive/California, Wallace Wade/Texas, Coker/Tennessee, Fairmont/California, Fyco Truck Parts/Utah....(and about 6 other shops around my area in Montana).
I can find the highway tires 18x700 but not the traction tires which I need for the rear dually set-up.
Looks like I will have to change the rims. This will be a challenge as well. It may take a few weeks, but I will update this post with the results.
TIRED-OUT!! | | |
#23650 09/28/2005 7:14 AM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 42 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 42 | I have a 52 one ton dually. same challenge. whatever happened? did you switch rims? what type?
thanks
'50 Chevy 1 ton dually daily driver, 1960 Ford F-100, 1972 GMC C-20, 1958 Kenworth, Cat D4, 1972 Ford F100 Ranger
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#23651 09/28/2005 11:15 PM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 135 Member | | Member Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 135 | Same tire setup for me too, 7:00 X 18". Coker Tire was about the best price I found for new highway tread tires.
I stumbled upon 4 good and 2 decent 7:00 X 18" tires in a salvage yard on a 1960 one ton. They didn't look like they had been on the truck all that long, nor the truck in the salvage yard for very long (Weeds not grown up around it yet, came from an insurance pool). I bought tires and rims for $150---and the rest of the truck for $100. Comes with a 235 which turns over freely, a PTO tranmission so that I can eventually install a hoist, etc.
I have a 1960 Apache ½ ton which I may now fix up with the extra parts.
Word hard, play harder, enjoy life!
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#23652 09/28/2005 11:59 PM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 226 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 226 | One other thing you better check is if its like my 54 3800... the rear dually brake drums are 14 inch..which wouldnt leave clearance for a 16 inch wheel possibly (theyre not too far off of the 18 inch wheels).... ive got good mud grips on the back of mine.. and the guy at the coop said he could get them.. if ya want me to check i could or maybe possibly trade yah...but im thinkin the freight would be kinda hi..????
What it will say on my Tombstone: "Boy, that guy sure owed alotta people Money"
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#23653 05/17/2006 11:58 PM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 42 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 42 | fatweed,
did you mean to say you can get 7.00x18 traction type tires from your coop?
'50 Chevy 1 ton dually daily driver, 1960 Ford F-100, 1972 GMC C-20, 1958 Kenworth, Cat D4, 1972 Ford F100 Ranger
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#23654 05/18/2006 2:19 PM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,158 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,158 | Have you guys tried a farm or tractor supply store for those 18" traction tires?
They may not be exactly what you're looking for -- and they may be pricey -- but they'd probably work for your application and they will probably mount them on your split rims without squabbling.
Just a thought... Dunno if you'll find any, but it's worth a shot... | | |
#23655 05/19/2006 2:04 AM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | You may also consider using 19.5" rims. They were an option on the later duallys. I'm not sure about vintag type traction tires, but there are radial traction tires available from Goodyear. I've also seen new 1 peice 19.5" rims from Rickson truck wheels, though they are somewhat expensive.
Bill Burmeister | | |
#23656 05/21/2006 12:03 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,144 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,144 | i had a 48 1 ton I put 17.5 tubeless on the front axle can't remember were I found the wheels the tires were Hyway tread though not the traction you seek. | | |
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