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Does anyone have a source to buy brake line fittings? I have a '59 Apache 31 panel and have been laughed out of several parts stores and one Chevy dealer when I showed them the fittings I was looking for. They told me that no such thing exists. I know I took it off of my truck, so I don't know what the problem is. I am replacing the entire brake system, so I really need the new fittings (connectors) to complete it. Can anyone help me? Thanks....


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T,

Are you bending the steel brake lines for your truck? If so, pre-fab sections they sell at the front of the auto parts store should have the brake line fittings you need.

The fitting nuts of the a brake line should be available at the auto or hardware store.

The local auto parts store should have your rubber brake lines too. You may need to bring in the hoses to get em.

Car Quest might have rebuild kits or even whole new wheel cylinders as well as a master cylinder re-build kit.

E-brake cables...all the catalogs will have them. Click on the links above and go to parts.

Can you post a picture of the part you are having trouble finding?

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46 In Progress - I bought a 25' roll of brake line that I will bend and flair myself.

The fitting nuts are no problem, I can find them anywhere.

I found some rubber brake lines at O'Rielly's, but so far they haven't come up with ones that have the correct ends. I believe I can have these hoses custom made, as long as I can come up with the ends.

I found new wheel cylinders, master cylinder and shoes with no problem.

I haven't thought about the emergency brake parts yet. That will likely come last.

The problem I'm having is the fittings that make the junctions where the lines go in different directions.

I have 2 fittings that I would consider to be 'T's'. There are brake lines coming out of the two opposing ends. The perpendicular leg is a threaded nipple that goes through the frame rail and then the rubber brake line threads on to it and continues on down to the wheel cylinder.

I have two other fittings that are the same concept, but different shape. There is a threaded nipple at one end and then a brake line comes out of the opposite end. The threaded nipple again goes through the frame rail and the rubber brake line threads onto it and continues on down to another 'T' on the rear axle housing.

I have one last 'T' fitting that has brake lines coming out of all three legs. This is used where the line tees off to go to the master.

I was advised by the Chevy dealer, Carquest, O'reilly's and a private brake specialty store that I should soak the fittings for a few days and then very carefully take them apart and reuse them, because nobody makes new ones. I just find this kind of weird that even the long-timers have never even seen these things before.

I am new to this site. I can post a picture if I can figure out how to do it. Otherwise I could e-mail one to you if you would give me your address.

Thanks for responding to my problem.
Toxictiki....


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Welcome to the Bolt, Toxictiki.

I took a look at the online Street Rod Catalog from this company and they had through frame fittings, and a variety of T's etc. for custom brake setups.

They also claim to manufacture all hard to find fittings for a variety of models to OEM specs so look the site over.

http://www.inlinetube.com/


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check out this page. Is this what you are looking for?

Second grouping of parts...T-junctions etc?
brake parts from american classic

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By the way Toxic,

Where are you from in IA? There are a couple of very active bolters on here from the area.

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I went to the ecology pick-a-part wrecking yard and found what i was looking for...just cut the pieces out with a pair of dikes... I removed the fittings at home... I got most of my fittings at the local autozone store... and napa has a good selection too.. along with a meager supply of "T's"...

Don't forget to DOUBLE flare your tubes.


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This is great. I love this site and all the quick help I have received.

Randy - Thanks for the link. I will spend some time checking it out.

46 - Thanks to you also for the link. I live near a little town called Polk City. It is roughly half way between Des Moines and Ames.

Rusty - Thanks for your input. I haven't been to Autozone or NAPA yet. My old fittings may be salvagable, I just wanted to put all new on. My good friend has already informed me about the double flare issue.

Thanks again to everyone for the help.
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It seems to me you could clean & polish them & use them over. They seldom go bad is the reason no one carrys them.


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Terminology might help. Your brake system uses "inverted flares". The "through the frame" type of fittings are usually called "bulkhead" fittings. Your old truck uses standard threads. If you are looking to cross over to late model parts, stick with the late 1970's parts and earlier so that you don't mix any metric stuff in there. The only "T" with a hose attached, you will mostly find for rear axle applications.

I recently built my brake system. Using old Wagner parts catalogs, I put together what I needed. At least for the hoses I needed. Some "T"s came from Summitracing.com. I think some inverted flare nuts came from Summit.

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Hey Toxic,
post us a picture, through a web host like webshots and the like, and I'll see if I can come up with something. Welcome to the 'Bolt fellow Iowan!
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The description in the online catalog that was referenced above is poor at best. Your Ts have inverted flares with a female thread. The brake lines have flares with a male thread on the nut. The brake hoses on the front attach to the inverted flare of the wheel cylinders. The other end of the hose has a built in inverted flare and a piece of brakeline attaches to it. It is anchored to the frame standoff using a clip. This is the standard setup.

You should be able to reuse those Ts unless they are damaged. They are brass and a little heat will encourage the steel nut threads to move on out.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by toxictiki:
I found some rubber brake lines at O'Rielly's, but so far they haven't come up with ones that have the correct ends. I believe I can have these hoses custom made, as long as I can come up with the ends.

napa matched my old (1939)brake lines with new. only took them 10 minutes and three comparisons.


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I think this is what you're looking for http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll?Parta~PartSort~A0~~~~~A330~A321
The hoses should be able to be ordered from the flaps, I know that Wagner still lists them in their catalog.


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Napa part # on the hoses is 13841. Front & rear.


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fittings here: oldchevytrucks.com


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I've been out of town a few days and have been away from my computer, so I wasn't able to respond sooner.

Thanks so much for all of your input and information. I have decided to try and use the original fittings and if that doesn't end up working out, I have several sources that you guys have provided for me where I can buy new ones. O'Reilly's did end up getting me the correct hoses and master cylinder.

I finally have all the necessary parts assembled, now I need to get them put on the truck. I'll be busy the next few nights. It won't take long to put the wheels together, but bending and flaring the brake lines will take some time.

Thanks againg for everyone's help.

Toxictiki....


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