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#19703 05/12/2004 6:17 AM
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This may be a stupid question but I am at a standstill. I have a 1950 4400 1 1/2 ton. The wheels have the ring on the outside lip. Some people call them "widow makers". They are 10 lug wheels with 4 3/4" hub. (20" wheels) I have been unable to find any one piece wheels that will fit. Does anybody know where I can find some at a reasonable price? I have checked some web sites where you can have them custom made but can't afford to pay $180.00 ea for 6 wheels plus $107 ea per tire!!
No one will work with the rims due to danger and insurance.
Would it be possible to weld the ring to the wheel to make them one piece?? Would I still be able to get the tire on the wheel? Would it knock the wheel to far out of balance to run?
It's pretty bad to have a running truck with no way to roll!!! :confused:

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#19704 05/12/2004 1:40 PM
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Tony,
Check around large truck service repair places- many will still do spit rims and have the cages do do it. The shop that did my tires just ran a chain thru the rim and hooked it on itself in case of an accident. Some of these shops know of guys who will come out to your site to do the work- they are out there! If you want, some of the guys on this site have gone to RV places and found single piece rims that work- I don't know the particulars. Keep searching and good luck!

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Tony,
I just remembered that Gary Perry has a '54' 2 ton posted in the gallery section with the wheels that you might be able to use. Gary posts under GLPERRY in the forum section - you might want to email him...

#19706 05/12/2004 6:48 PM
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check the big bolts forum we have had many discussions about rims and tires in there.

my understanding is that the 53+ rears could be swapped with rims off of a P-body truck. I have a 52 rear in mine and that won't work (or so I've been told) apparently the hub is to small and would need a custom spacer to fit the larger later rear rims.

you should be able to find the tires at big truck places. and they will probably do the work if you ask around.

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I think GLperry got some 1-piece 19.5" wheels and tires off of a motor home. Most late model Chevy 3500 HD trucks use the same wheel. Bolt pattern is the same. My 50 3600 3/4-ton has 15" 2-piece rims with 8 on 6.5" bolt circle. Most tire shops won't work on them either. Good luck! :p


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#19708 05/13/2004 1:51 AM
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All you need is a large splitting wedge, a 2 pound sledge and various pry bars to do it yourself. I've done all of my own tire work myself since day one. It's a lot of work, but most tire shop would rather not mess with them and would price it accordingly. The most important thing about split and double split rims is clean the grooves and the ring very well. Don't force, distort or bend the ring. Only inflate the tire in a cage, under a hoist with a car on it or with a chain wrapped loosely around the tire. If you were closer, I would offer my services,
Scott


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