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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 31 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 31 | We used to rub chalk into the timing marks and wipe off the excess so the degree marks would show up. They showed up real well when using the timinglight. The method works good for part numbers and maximum drum widths on old rusty brake drums, etc.
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,893 Socket Breaker | | Socket Breaker Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,893 | 53 GMConceived : Ah. chalk... that is a good tip there. Thanks -- 3 girls' dad : a relief rub, I bet that would work and come in handy in a lot of situations... Since stumbling on this Bon Ami trick, I have pondered using a crayon, or using a bar of soap like a crayon. -W | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 314 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2005 Posts: 314 | I needed the part # off my generator to determine whether it was 6 or 12 volt. I could not read it because it is so far down in there. I took a picture of it with my digital camera. This way I could enlarge it to any size I want. Worked great. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | I use chalk or a crayon rub.
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 42 Apprentice | | Apprentice Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 42 | Another trick for photographing ID numbers in hard-to-reach places is to use an off-camera flash on your camera (either with a cord, or a pricy remote trigger). That way you can light the number from the side, and that makes the number stand out due to the shadows. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,893 Socket Breaker | | Socket Breaker Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,893 | any more tips folks ? Mrs. Peg has sucked me into typing this up as a tech article so I thought I'd see if anyone wanted to add more to the pot. -W | | | | | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 310 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 310 | I use; old eyes and my glasses are always somewhere else, what we call liquid paper or typex. It's the same as chalking it, but it lasts a bit longer. In the army we used white paint for the serial number of our personal weapon. One way of staying on the base during the weekend, was being found with the wrong weapon in your hand. Sanding it, will sometimes work well too, shiny surface with rusty numbers. I bought a punch set to mark parts I take off when there could be any doubt when putting them back, but be sure you don't wreck them in the process. To keep them visible, like a frame number, that has to be checked for yearly inspection ( in Holland ) I filled it in with paint and covered it with some layers of “varnish”, but sometimes they don’t believe that and clean it up to make sure it’s the right number. What I heard about, but never tried it. A strong acid will eat away the steel around the numbers faster than the numbers it self, were the steel is a bit more dense from the punch. Clean well after trying this, acid will keep eating it and you might loose that part. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,444 Moderator - The Electrical Bay | | Moderator - The Electrical Bay Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,444 | Sometimes I'll spit on the part number, and wipe it with my finger... doesnt always work, especially on real rusty and dirty parts, but more often than not, i can figure it out.
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| | | | | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 920 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2004 Posts: 920 | I was finally able to read my block numbers by holding a flashlight from an angle while simultaneously spraying the area with Gunk. The numbers would just stand out. As soon as I stopped spraying, I could no longer see the numbers. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 310 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 310 | That's new to me, got to try it out. You did it in normal day light ? | | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,557 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,557 | I use welders soap stone,works great !!!! 1951 3100 Chevrolet1951 Chevrolet Suburban CarryallImage"A house is built with boards and beams. A home is built with love and dreams." "Look deep before you leap !!!" / "Everything is Everything" "If I say a mouse can pull a house, hitch him up"
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welders soap stone... ya rub it on it, then it fills in the part number and creates a contrast so that you can read it, or what?
I don't know what welders soap stone is, so I'm jsut looking for a little clarification to add to the tech tip.
-W | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,893 Socket Breaker | | Socket Breaker Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,893 | the edited & condensed version of this thread:
Tricks and Tips for reading indented part numbers.
# 1
Use some Bon Ami(white dishwashing powder scrubbing stuff) or another brand and sprinkle some onto the side of the part with the number that you need to read.
Scrub it some and rinse it out good, get the gunk off of it to get at the number. Then you can sprinkle some more of the white powder on there, then wipe across with a rag or your finger, use your discretion, then the Bon Ami fills in the indented space. The white powder against the rusted part or whatever the background is, shows up better and makes it easier to read.
# 2
Do a relief rub, like people do with old Tombstones.
Take some paper, something kinda of thin, and a crayon. Lay the paper against the part number and lightly scribble back and forth across the paper. The part number should show up with the crayon marking around it.
# 3
Using chalk to fill in the part number.
Rub chalk into the timing marks or part number and wipe off the excess so the degree marks/numbers will show up. They show up real well when using the timing light. This method works good for part numbers and maximum drum widths on old rusty brake drums, etc.
# 4
Using a digital camera and a digital image manipulation/editing program
You can take a picture of the part number with a digital camera. Stick it on your computer and then blow up the picture with software to the size you want.
Another trick for photographing ID numbers in hard-to-reach places is to use an off-camera flash on your camera (either with a cord, or a pricy remote trigger). That way you can light the number from the side, and that makes the number stand out due to the shadows.
# 5
Liquid paints or other coatings.
A Type – o fluid such as liquid paper or typex. It is the same as chalking it, but it lasts a bit longer. You can used white paint for the numbers
# 6
Sanding the part, will sometimes work well too. This creates a shiny surface with rusty numbers. The contrast helps you be able to better read the numbers.
# 7
You can spit on the part number, and wipe it with your finger(use discretion). This does not always work, especially on real rusty and dirty parts, but sometimes it works.
# 8
A strong acid will eat away the steel around the numbers faster than the numbers it self, where the steel is a bit more dense from the punch. Clean the entire part very well after trying this, as the acid will keep eating the metal away and you might loose that part.
# 9
Keeping the part numbers visible.
To keep them visible, like a frame number, that has to be checked for yearly inspection ( in some places) you can fill in the number with paint and cover it with some layers of “varnish” or a clear coat of some kind.
# 10
You can spray the numbers by holding a flashlight from an angle while simultaneously spraying the area with Gunk. The numbers will stand out. When you stop spraying, you likely will not be able to see the numbers anymore. This method was used with success on reading the block numbers on an engine. Writers note: Gunk is a brand name of greasy parts and hands cleaning stuff, which comes in sprays, gels and creams; check your parts store.
# 11 You can rub welders soap stone across casting numbers, helps to see see the numbers. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 310 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 310 | Woogeroo, welders soapstone is just a way to mark were you have to cut or weld, is a limestone product that's a bit sticky, tailors use the same stuff, or I should say used to, it's slowly disappearing of the market. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 266 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 266 | Go to Lowe's, Home Depot, National Welders or someplace like Tractor Supply or any metal working shop and they have them. Around here we refer to them as soap pencils. They are either round or flat in a metal case. Here is a link to a soapstone: http://208.178.227.196/cgi-bin/nw/WService=nw/prodbrws.html?id=614104 Drew | | |
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