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What is the recommended lug nut torque
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For your '48 3100 with original 7/16" x 20 studs and steel wheels, lug nut torque should be between 70-80 ft lbs. If you are using a wheel different than original steel style (like cast aluminum), you should confirm what that wheel manufacturer specs are and go by their requirements.
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 899 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 899 | I have a 49 3100 6 lug 15" tires on steel wheels. My hand written maintenance notes say 50-60 ft lbs. Looked in my maintenance manuals but couldn't find the reference. I must have seen it somewhere but can't say where.
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Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,987 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,987 | Did they even have torque specs back in those days? I realize they do now, but I always had the impression that back then you just cranked them as tight as you could, so they didn't come loose. | | | | | Joined: May 2019 Posts: 232 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2019 Posts: 232 | Thanks guys
I know 90 is too much because that’s when it broke
Torquing last of all 4 wheels
Looks like a clean break
Factory wheels
I’m going to go with 75 | | | | | Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,478 AD Addict & Tinkerer | | AD Addict & Tinkerer Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,478 | If someone has an era-specific owner's manual, it would likely be in that. I checked the owners manual for my ‘52 and could not find it listed anywhere. I believe I went with 70-75.
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Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,055 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,055 | Thanks guys
I know 90 is too much because that’s when it broke
Torquing last of all 4 wheels
Looks like a clean break
Factory wheels
I’m going to go with 75 Yeah, that torque them down till they break and back off a half turn method doesn't really work very well.  I'd say 75 ft lb would probably be fine. Interesting that the owner's manual doesn't have anything.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,772 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,772 | Interesting that the owner's manual doesn't have anything. Nor does the FSM. The way I deal with situations like this is to tighten the nuts with the lug wrench that came with the vehicle instead of using an impact driver or air gun. It's nearly impossible to over-tighten lug nuts using the tire iron manually unless you're Arnold Swarzeneger. After all, what farmer in 1950 was riding around with a torque wrench in his truck? He tightened the nuts as tight as he could by hand with the tool provided.
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Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | Guess I'm in trouble!! For 40 plus years I've used 90 psi with my air wrench on all cars/trucks, from Volkswagen to 4 wheel drives, of normal size and never had a problem. Maybe a couple studs. Also, at 90 psi, my young daughters could break the lug nuts loose. Yes, bigger trucks get more attention.
I laugh at places like Walmart who has psi set so high they know the torque wtench will click. When I delivered parts commercially for Advance Auto I delivered most all studs and lug nuts to the same place.
Just my .02 worth. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,597 Moderator | | Moderator Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,597 | I agree with Kevin and Otto, I always hand tighten to final torque whatever that may be? Also make sure the threads and nut faces are lubed. I know the race car pit crew have their impacts calibrated to a certain air pressure and torque. But that don't apply to us. Yes spin them on with a impact till they touch, then either hand tighten or use a torque wrench to the final torque. Never hammer down with a impact because you really don't know what torque it is at!
Don
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S2 Stewart2 1955.1 3100 Both Owner and P/U have lots of miles, lots of history and need LOTS of TLC Jack of several trades and experiences; Master of none
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Finally something definitive. There's nothing at all in the 48-51 shop manual. That should pertain to 47-55 3100's. Interesting, I just looked at a 55 2nd series shop manual and it specifies 45-65 ft lb for 1/2 tons. That's on page 10-12. It specifies 65-90 ft lb for 3/4 ton and 1 ton, and 250--275 ft lb for 1-1/2 ton and 2 ton.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 176 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 176 | Sort of off subject but the shop manual for the 55.1 IS the 54. They just added section 7, pg 140 to cover the "Hotchkiss drive system" for the 1955 modified 3 speed transmission. So, 4 paragraphs.
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Stewart2 1955.1 3100 Both Owner and P/U have lots of miles, lots of history and need LOTS of TLC Jack of several trades and experiences; Master of none
| | | | | Joined: May 2019 Posts: 232 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2019 Posts: 232 | | | | | | Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,450 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,450 | On lugnuts just use the SAE torque chart. that is plenty. On modern stuff higher torque values contribute to ability of the whole vehicle to stand a crash. Even the fragile bumpers are made to wad up in a crash,so maybe you'll be able to hobble away !! | | | | | Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,450 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,450 | klhansen Remember when the tire shops would torque the lug nuts so tight you would bend the tin wrench that came with the vehicle along the road on a tire change ?? | | |
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