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#1460293 07/26/2022 1:48 PM
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Hello
My name is John, I have a 1951 3100 pickup truck.it is mostly stock. I replaced everything related to the brakes. Master cylinder, lines,hoses, etc,.. my problem is sometimes the brake pedal gets extremely hard to push and the brakes are dragging. I thought maybe I had filled the fluid to high so I took some out. Seemed to be better, then it happened again. ( it seems to only happen when my wife drives, it is her truck, I’m sure that has nothing to do with the problem). After it sits for a couple of hours it goes back to being ok. Seems like fluid builds up psi and is not returning back to MC. Any thoughts? I’m new to this forum, I’m glad to be here!
Thanks John


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John,
Are you sure it isn't like the woman who complained about terrible fuel mileage, and after much searching, the mechanic rode with her to discover she pulled out the choke and hung her purse on it? grin (Sorry I couldn't resist.)
Have you looked at the wheel cylinders and shoes? Maybe something is hanging up there, or there's oil contamination on the linings.


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Welcome to the ‘bolt! I have a ‘52 3100 with manual brakes and compared to today’s trucks, the pedal is hard. Mine doesn’t change though indicating something is wrong.

Just so you know, you will get more responses if you post in the Driveline Forum.

Good luck and see you around the Garage!


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Welcome John,
I would check your toeboard clearance;
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/shop/1948_51truck/51ctsm0508.htm

If this is not adjusted correctly, the master cylinder may not be returning to the "resting position" which allows the system pressure to return to zero. That will result in a hard pedal and dragging brakes. I am certain it is not because of your wife and how she drives it! Good luck,
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Welcome to the 'bolt.. i'm moving this to the Driveline forum where you will get the attention you need.


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Welcome wave

I agree with Kent! The MC piston is not returning all the way keeping pressure in the lines...make the adjustments per the manual...there should be a little pedal movement (free play) before you feel it moving the MC piston.

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Originally Posted by Lightholder's Dad
Welcome John,
I would check your toeboard clearance;
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/shop/1948_51truck/51ctsm0508.htm

If this is not adjusted correctly, the master cylinder may not be returning to the "resting position" which allows the system pressure to return to zero. That will result in a hard pedal and dragging brakes. I am certain it is not because of your wife and how she drives it! Good luck,
Kent

This is exactly what the problem was that I had with mine, very simple adjustment and I've had NO brake drag issues!
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John s #1462106 08/10/2022 4:28 AM
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thankyou everyone for your help i adjusted master and now so far i dont have brake fliud in boot as well.might be two issues. so i may take new master off and check piston cups


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