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I need rear wheels for my new project,to get it on the trailer for now.
what bolt pattern does the 6000 series have?
I also found that there´s 19,5" rims whith the same bolt pattern,and would like to use those instead of the reataining ring type suicide rims,And need ideas on what trucks could have such rims.
/ Vince

Welcome to the Stovebolt Vince.

You have ten-lug hubs and should be able to find some of those 19.5 wheels on a box truck or maybe a motorhome. You'll also see very similar 8-lug wheels, so look carefully when you are buying.

Finding a pair of wheels to fit the back so you can move the truck should not be too hard. You may have more trouble finding wheels that will also work on the front.

what years are we talking about?does fomoco and mopar have those 10 bolts too?
it aint exactly easy to find anything that old us made here in sweden, but I do know where there´s 2 old ford trucks sitting in a yard,one 46ish and one 53ish f600,both have 2 ton type suspension,but when i looked at them a year ago,I didn´t need any wheels for the truck I now have,and it´s a nearly 3 hr drive just to get there.alittle to much just to check

1976-2000 Chevy/GMC 3500HD trucks used the 10-7.25 bolt pattern on 19.5" wheels. Also certain GM P-series trucks, motorhomes, and workhorse chassis, though I don't know years for those.

The 3500HD wheels have a larger hub bore than the AD Chevy trucks, so if you want to use those wheels, you should use hubcentric rings. You can still buy these wheels new.

I think Ford also used the 10-7.25 bolt pattern on 1987-1998 F-Super Duty trucks, but they were only 16" wheels, and had smaller lug bolts.

Word of warning, the 19.5's would not fit over the rear drums of my 48 4400. They were off of a mid 90's 4500 Chevy. I ended up refurishing some 1950 6400 wheels so I could get the wider rims so I could buy 8.25 - 20 tires. It called for the 7.50 - 20's but they are expensive,
Good luck,
Scott

ok,thanks guys,now:I haven´t checked, but the seller said he thought the front rims had 10 holes to,just to be interchangable whith the rears,could that be the case?cause I´ve found 2 20" whith 5 holes that might fit up front,then I could just move the fronts to the back for now,to get it home.
also found 1 19,5" rim but the holes seem small as you said,I´ll drag them home today anyhow.

Yes, all six wheels on these trucks were the same. On my '53, the clamp ring (between wheel and lug nuts) on the fronts is only drilled for five holes so it covers the other five unused holes in the wheel.

Has anyone actually replaced the originial rims with new non-split rims? If so, do you have any pictures? I'm working on my truck but am still wanting to keep the original rims on the truck for historical value.

hey guys, while we're on the topic...... how about those of us with Task Force trucks who can't use the newer 10-bolters? i've got 20" splits on my '59 and would REALLY like the 'correct' 6-bolt, 22.5" tubeless. that's next up on the parts hunt list at the moment, as i'm not about to screw with what's on there at the moment other than off-once

another q:who makes new steelwheels that would fit?I searched the net for hrs yesterday,and all I found was alcoa,and those are aluminum(and expensive!)and don´t fit the style of truck,look way to "hip"
GM must buy their wheels somewhere,right?

I'd like to know the answer too. I visited one local truck wheel dealer that said they had contacts to have new rims custom made at $400 each(I'd need seven...do the math.) I didn't ask who was going to do the custom work but they said that none of the stock rims they had access to would work inplace of the split 20"s. The center hole was to big on the ones the dealer had access to.

I've been searching on the web quite a bit for 20" wheels, too. I don't think new ones exist that will fit the AD trucks. Most of the new big truck wheels seem to be 19.5", 22.5", or 24.5", with much bigger bolt circles, and nobody seems to be making replacements for the old trucks. All I've found with the correct bolt pattern are the 19.5", both steel and aluminum, but as mentioned, the hub bores are too big, though that problem can be cured by using hubcentric rings to fill the gap. Also, there is the problem that they may not fit over the brake drums, as Scott mentioned above (for his '48). The rear drums on the 4000-6000 series changed in '51, though, so one would have to check if that makes a difference. Accuride makes the 19.5" steel OEM replacements that I found.

Sykotec, what is the bolt circle on the TF trucks with 22.5" wheels? Accuride makes a 6-hole, 8.75" circle, 22.5x6.75 steel wheel. They have a 6.5" bore, but are stud-piloted. Is this anywhere close?

Hemmings Motor News Feb 05 edition Parts Locator column list this place as a supplier of truck and Military Wheels. I have no idea of their prices or quality
Stockton Wheel Service
648 W Fremont Street
Stockton, Ca 95203
209 464 7771

I had found Stockton wheel in my searches. At first, I only looked at some of the stock wheels they show on their site (stocktonwheel.com), and none of them would do. On further perusing of their site, I found that they claim they "can custom build to your specification almost any type of wheel" in "15, 16, 16.5, 17, 19.5, 20, 22.5, 24.5-inch sizes with any bolt circle, any offset, or any width, painted or chromed!" They also do wheel repair and rerimming. They could take stock wheel centers and weld them into new one-piece rims.

I'll have to look into that!!

Kb3csw, thanks for mentioning them. I probably wouldn't have gone back to their site again otherwise.

My first thought when I read that was watch out, its going to be big bucks.

Then I remembered that in the 70's my dad used to have wheels made all the time because he had a trailer that required a special wheel that could no longer be purchased, and which could be made up from some common pieces. That trailer was used off-road and he was always breaking a wheel on it...

And then I remembered that a friend with a small trucking company used to have truck wheels made up too.

I'd want to be sure I was confident in the abilities of the machine shop involved, but cutting the centers out of one wheel and inserting it into another requires precision and excellent welding skills, not rocket science.

I don't think I'd do it on a truck I'm planning to cruise the freeway at 100 mph, but to get modern tires on tubeless wheels for a 45 mph local work or parade truck it might be a reasonable solution.

Has anyone tried it?

MAN YOU GUYS ASK ALOT OF QUESTIONS! GARY PERRY REPLACED THE STOCK 10 HOLE WHEELS WITH 10 HOLE 19.5 WHEELS WITH NO ILL EFFECTS ON HIS A.D. 1 1/2 TON. sorry--the caps lock was on.

call a wheel shop in your area and see if they can weld and balance the inside of the stock rim to a later model 22.5 rim. some can, some can't.

22.5 rims are the replacement for the 20 inch rims. there are several sizes of 22 tire.

the 19.5 tires are MUCH shorter than the 22's

Swede, the fronts are only 5 studs used, the other 5 holes in wheels are covered by a trim ring. They are still same 10-lug wheels though. The fella above has it right with the 19.5" on HD3500 trucks and motorhomes and delivery vans of larger P-60 series. I had them on my 54 AD truck. There is a picture here on the Stovebolt site if you do search under 54 year. OR, if not, maybe I can find one here to send to you. I had 8R19.5 tires from a Motorhome on mine for 5yrs, maybe more. They just cleared the rear drums, by 1/4" at edges. Rode much nicer with radials. The outer diameter was little different from the 20". The Ford and IH or Dodge 5 lugs are the large Budd style nuts, require 1-1/2" socket to fit those lugs, so holes are much too large, different system entirely. Same as modern semi's use today. Later Ford's, think 56 and up use same wheel style, but 6-lug. They used those for years. Any motorhome place or a Chevy/GMC dealer can get those wheels new. I priced them out at $125 one place, $200 at another. I found mine used at an ag/big truck tire shop for $50 a piece. The center hole is same size as my 54 and up trucks, but slightly bigger than older trucks. New ones 5-1/4", old ones 4-3/4". They will still bolt up, just won't carry weight on the hub, but the studs instead. I was always gonna look into having a thin metal peice machined to fit the space, weld in the wheel here and there for my older rig.

I´ll check whith my local tire guys,worst case,maybe one of you guys could get them in the states and have them shipped to me?I´ll update as soon as I know something new.