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Jul 21st, 2025 | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | So, I thought that I would let you guys know that as I close in on swapping out the engine in my truck, I drained the oil and found antifreeze in it but did not see any metal. The green color was very obvious. I think I will pull the head tomorrow to see what I can see from the top. I will drop the oil pan after I get the boat anchor out. I will send updates in the near future!
Anyone feel like lending a hand putting the new one in? I should be ready by next weekend.
I am itching to actually drive her again!
Chris | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | May not see a lot from the top.
Pulling the oil pan might tell more of the story than pulling the head. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | I figured that would be the case; should be interesting to see what was the actual cause.
Chris | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | Any update on the update? | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | I am waiting on the parts I ordered. I was told that ups lost the package of gaskets. If I can find a few hours, I will pull the old engine this weekend after I paint the wife's office. Otherwise, I am ready for the flip of engines. Once she is on the lift, I will know more.
Chris | | | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 431 Stovebolt Photo Moderator | | Stovebolt Photo Moderator Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 431 | Chris - If this gives you some inspiration - here is your engine running up at my shop in Philadelphia: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQYi0-vLIwJSS0zWFY5dXg3TTQ/view?usp=sharingDJ and his dad were here for the "first start". This was plugs in, distributor attached and power on. We never dialed it in, but she ran great and no smoke !!!!! Best, Amtrak Joe
1947 - 3800 dually known as "Deadwrench"Link to a few photosIn this world there are givers and takers. The takers eat well, the givers sleep well. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,400 ODSS Lawman | | ODSS Lawman Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,400 | Is that the same engine you brought to Billy's a few years ago???
SWEET Sergeant At Arms: Old Dominion Stovebolt Society BUNS?!?!?!Where we're going, we don't need no buns.....1950 GMC 450 1951 Chevy 1/2-TonThe GreenMachineIn the Stovebolt Gallery | | | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 431 Stovebolt Photo Moderator | | Stovebolt Photo Moderator Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 431 | That's the one Chris - except we put a rebuilt head on it since then. The original head had a chip where the spark plug seats on the head - no. 2 cylinder. Bill had a newly rebuilt 216 head and that is whats on there.
1947 - 3800 dually known as "Deadwrench"Link to a few photosIn this world there are givers and takers. The takers eat well, the givers sleep well. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,410 ODSS President | | ODSS President Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,410 | That is a great engine that deserves to be painted the traditional grey. -----------------------That is just one opinion.
~ Cosmo
1949 Chevy Half Ton
Rocinante, like Don Quixote, he is awkward, past his prime, and engaged in a task beyond his capacities.
"...my good horse Rocinante, mine eternal and inseparable companion in all my journeys and courses." ...Don Quixote, Cervantes
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it."...Yogi Berra
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." ...Eric Hoffer
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 443 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 443 | The President has spoken. So let it be written.... so shall it be done. The engine will be grey before the sun sets. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,410 ODSS President | | ODSS President Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,410 | From the desk of yer president...
The TRUTH: Chuck Connors obtained permission from Napco Man to work on the tv show 'The Rifleman', in addition, Chuck Norris calls our own NAPCO MAN, 'Sir!' There's only about 8 hours of daylight left, just sayin'.
~ Cosmo
1949 Chevy Half Ton
Rocinante, like Don Quixote, he is awkward, past his prime, and engaged in a task beyond his capacities.
"...my good horse Rocinante, mine eternal and inseparable companion in all my journeys and courses." ...Don Quixote, Cervantes
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it."...Yogi Berra
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." ...Eric Hoffer
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 431 Stovebolt Photo Moderator | | Stovebolt Photo Moderator Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 431 | A little known fact - Chuck Connors played in the Major Leagues. And not "A league of their own"...
1947 - 3800 dually known as "Deadwrench"Link to a few photosIn this world there are givers and takers. The takers eat well, the givers sleep well. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | FYI, engine was painted gray a week ago, not traditional though. Anyone available for assistance putting her into her new home on Saturday ? I am willing to supply smoked meat and beer to anyone available. Any takers?
Chris | | | | | Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,393 Camp Commandant | | Camp Commandant Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,393 | Chris, sounds like you are making forward progress again. Good for you. Smoked meat, beer and wrenching on an old truck? Thats a very tempting offer. Unfortunately I will be sequestered to the home base again this weekend taking care of the wife's hay burners while she is away. So I am out.
Good luck on the install, hope all goes well.
~ Billy Old Dominion Stovebolt Society: Exotic Animal Division 1946 Chevrolet Cab Over Engine | In the Gallery | Video | More pictures1959 GMC 860 | Pictures1950 GMC 450 Flatbed W/W, Air Brake equipt (25% Owner) | Pictures1950 Chevrolet 3800 | PicturesI've got a trailer and I'm not afraid to use it! | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | No worries sir, might as well but beer in the saddle bags and "smoke some grass" as you haul @$$. Miss my horses. | | | | | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,715 Moderator: 60-66 Trucks; North Eastern Bolters | | Moderator: 60-66 Trucks; North Eastern Bolters Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,715 | I am also out of town, committed. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 775 Bondo Artiste | | Bondo Artiste Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 775 | If I were only closer. But we’d be throwing in either a GMC 270 or a GMC 302. None of this Chebby nonsense....time for a overdrive transmission too. Just sayin’
~ Phillip
1949 GMC Suburban - 10 year project
1952 Pontiac Chieftain Convertible straight 8 hydramatic
1945 GMC half ton truck - Driver
1946 Chevy COE - Might restore one day...
1959 GMC Half ton long bed NAPCO
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | Gmc, one step at a time. Need a running truck that I can enjoy, then upgrades to make it better after that. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 431 Stovebolt Photo Moderator | | Stovebolt Photo Moderator Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 431 | Chris - good luck with the installation. I will place my wrench in my pocket for good luck. Lets hope that no bolts get stripped, no fingers get pinched, and she fires up strong. Joe
1947 - 3800 dually known as "Deadwrench"Link to a few photosIn this world there are givers and takers. The takers eat well, the givers sleep well. | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | Wish I could be there for the swap, but extra busy here this weekend with a timber framing project.
Good luck
| | | | | Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 Bond Villain | | Bond Villain Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 | Chris, Glad to hear things are moving ahead. But I am still in the same boat I was in for Winchester -- My duties here preclude any travel at this time. Sorry! However, I do plan on wearing your hat in the Veteran's Day Parade while at the wheel of the M-37B1-WW 
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~ John "We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are" 1948 International Farmall Super A1949 Chevrolet 3804In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum1973 IH 1310 Dump2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley) | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | Update: I have a few buddies from work that will be attending. My ODSS wrench will be in my pocket in hopes that the wisdom of all of you enters my head. Afterwards I will be drinking a beer or 4. I will give you all an update after everything is together.
Chris | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | I want to see a picture of "the hat".
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | Carl, "hat?" What hat? Did I miss something?
Chris | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | See John's post about his borrowed (gifted/stolen?) parade hat. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | Old engine is out, new engine has bellhousing, flywheel, clutch and transmission installed. Just need a few new bolts and some assistance with the valve adjustment (I screwed it up) after I put it in.
Chris | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | [quote=John However, I do plan on wearing your hat in the Veteran's Day Parade while at the wheel of the M-37B1-WW [/quote] Enjoy the hat! It should fit in when driving your vehicle. Chris Chris | | | | | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 45 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 45 | Old engine is out, new engine has bellhousing, flywheel, clutch and transmission installed. Just need a few new bolts and some assistance with the valve adjustment (I screwed it up) after I put it in.
Chris If you need help with the valve adjustment. I have a lot of free time (broken hand from a car accident ). I cant do anything hands on, but can stupervise. I just adjusted the valves on a 46 its a easy job , just have to make sure the engine is turned to the right spot first. Let me know, Richard
Richard
42 Chevy pickup
65 Chevy C10 Panel
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 431 Stovebolt Photo Moderator | | Stovebolt Photo Moderator Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 431 | Chris - make your way to NAPA - get yourself a mechanical fuel pump for this engine. I recall it has a good camshaft and a mechanical pump should work - Joe
1947 - 3800 dually known as "Deadwrench"Link to a few photosIn this world there are givers and takers. The takers eat well, the givers sleep well. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | Joe,
Mechanical fuel pump is already on it. Just need to rerun lines and take off the old electric pump. Step by step, I am getting there slowly. I will be on the road again!
Richard,
Sorry to hear about the hand! Hope you recover very soon. I may take you up on the assistance. I need to learn and I enjoy doing the work. I am TDY until 4 nov.
Thanks guys!
Chris | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | Finally got the PA power plant into the truck! Taking a couple of days off this week to hook everything back up. Progress! | | | | | Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 775 Bondo Artiste | | Bondo Artiste Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 775 | Very nice! Nothing better that heavy progress when dropping in an engine. Keep up the good work.
~ Phillip
1949 GMC Suburban - 10 year project
1952 Pontiac Chieftain Convertible straight 8 hydramatic
1945 GMC half ton truck - Driver
1946 Chevy COE - Might restore one day...
1959 GMC Half ton long bed NAPCO
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 431 Stovebolt Photo Moderator | | Stovebolt Photo Moderator Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 431 | Fantastic = glad to hear., Joe
1947 - 3800 dually known as "Deadwrench"Link to a few photosIn this world there are givers and takers. The takers eat well, the givers sleep well. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | Wish I knew how to post a picture on here. (Attach to message) joe, looks as if she belongs there! Now to get her running like a champ. Maybe even change the rear end gearing this spring!
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| | | | | Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 775 Bondo Artiste | | Bondo Artiste Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 775 | No need to print the tech tip on the 3:55 gear install your neighbor SWEET is the resident expert on this install and I'm certain you get the parts and some beer lined up he'll be right over to make it happen.
Just make sure your brake system is up to par to handle the extra speed, and if your looking to upgrade to a dual master brake system I know that's on the Radar of Sweet also as I braced up and has his bracket welded up extra strong a few years back....
~ Phillip
1949 GMC Suburban - 10 year project
1952 Pontiac Chieftain Convertible straight 8 hydramatic
1945 GMC half ton truck - Driver
1946 Chevy COE - Might restore one day...
1959 GMC Half ton long bed NAPCO
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | Trkn,
I have disc brakes up front and a dual master cylinder under the floor boards. She will stop......just need to get her rolling again under her own power. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | Engine/trans/drive line bolted in place
Throttle linkage-done
Fuel system-done
Vacuum lines-done
Engine-at TDC, all electronics in place (minus plug wires)
Need to add fluids and install radiator.
Almost ready for the initial startup!
Been a great day in the garage!
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 442 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 442 | nd,
Congrats on your progress! You are a couple of months ahead of me. I'm hoping to do my engine swap in the spring. I'd love to hear your lessons learned from your current swap. Any hints or tips to make it easier and safer would be greatly appreciated! OBTW, I'm a total noob here, so nothing is too basic for me.
Thanks! | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part | | Moderator: Interiors, Texas Bolters, Name that Part Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,194 | Mike,
I would love to assist. It was easier than I thought it would be. Sweet lives close to you also. There are many guys on here that would love to assist. They will teach you just like they are teaching me! I am a beginner and have learned a ton in the last 4 years.
PM me and I will send my cell number to you.
Chris
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 442 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 442 | Chris,
Your offer sounds awesome! Your truck looks great, mine is going the ratty route for the time being. Your offer to help is the motivation that I need to get out in the garage in the cold and get done the engine work that needs to be done so that I'm ready for the swap. Once I get the engine work done, I'll see if I can get you and those teachers to help me through the process.
The biggest unknowns for me right now are dealing with the torque tube so that it doesn't crush me... and knowing that I'll have to drill out the front motor mount holes (the engine is from a passenger car and used side mounts), probably after setting the engine in place. Lots to think about on cold winter days! | | |
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