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#12036 04/19/2005 3:27 AM | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 168 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 168 | I know this has been discussed before, but I still need help. Afer searchingthe post archives, I'm having trouble piecing together what I need to know. Is there a center section which will bolt into a 47 AD rear to convert to open driveline? I really don't want to change my axle, just my engine/trans. Thanks,
jay
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#12037 04/19/2005 3:53 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | It is believed that the center section of a Task Force series rear axle is a bolt in. I might be trying it in the next year. Just remember to weld the pivot pins on the spring shackles so the axle doesn't twist. | | |
#12038 04/19/2005 4:29 AM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,337 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,337 | A 1955-62 1/2 ton center section will bolt into a 1940 and later 1/2 ton axle housing, same axle splines also.
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#12039 04/19/2005 11:39 AM | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 168 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 168 | Beside's cost, does anyone have opinions on the gears from Patrick's?
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#12040 04/19/2005 11:50 AM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 324 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 324 | I installed the ring gear and pinion from Patrick's (3:55) in my 53 am very pleased with it. I can now run 60 to 65 on the highway without the 235 screaming at me. | | |
#12041 04/20/2005 4:28 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | There was an article in one of the magazines talking about the downside of the installation. One being that although you can cruise at highway speeds, getting up there takes longer. It also mentions having to down shift for most hills. I don't know if it is all true as I don't have the gears in my truck. Those who do can offer a better answer on these two points. | | |
#12042 04/20/2005 2:33 PM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,095 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,095 | olblu49, go to www.1010tires.com or www.randy\'sringand pinion.com to play with gear and tire ratios. they both have calculators on their sites. hope this helps i think the sites are fun anyway. ron
Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
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#12043 04/23/2005 10:13 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 74 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 74 | I have a '56 center section for sale in the swap meet area. I was going to run it in my '52 rear housing - I had it bolted in and all - but I came across a free 10 bolt of the right width with 3.08 gears so I'm going to run that instead. | | |
#12044 04/23/2005 10:38 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | I put a 3.38 set in a 56 one time. It worked great. It would probably be sluggish with a 216 but a 235 pulls good. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
#12045 04/24/2005 1:46 AM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,095 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,095 | i have a 79 nova rearend great but the 2.73 gears are not the best. no problem here in the midwest flat land but not the greatest on hills. i also have upgraded the engine with duals and dual carbs and electronic distributor. and 15" tires. ron
Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
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#12046 04/24/2005 7:13 PM | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 | I'm running 3:08 rear in my 46 with the S-10 T-5. With the low first gear in the T-5 it drives just great. 5th gear overdrive gets little use until I'm on a long flat road. Best thing to do with the old truck, that's not hauling big loads is to gear up that rear end. My 47 and 216 loves the 3:55 rear end. | | |
#12047 05/01/2005 8:29 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 507 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 507 | I am running a set of Patrick's 3:55 in my 41 1/2 ton with stock 41 4-speed, 55 235 runs 65-75 on the freeway, don't down shift for hills, infact I tend to pass late model trucks on most of the grades. Just my 2cents.
"If it ain't Steel it ain't Real" "Earth the insane aslyum for the rest of the Universe" 41 1/2-ton, a work in progress 68 Shortbed stepside 327/325hp/700R4
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#12048 05/01/2005 5:27 PM | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 23 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: May 2005 Posts: 23 | question pre68 dave - will the 55-62 centers bolt into a 54 pickup without changing the axles?
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#12049 05/02/2005 3:48 AM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 194 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 194 | papa ed: You will have to remove the axles to make the change, but the 54 axles will work in the later model rear end just fine. | | |
#12050 05/02/2005 1:19 PM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,422 ODSS President | | ODSS President Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,422 | Papa ed, yes, I have 20k on a '49 axle with a '57 center section. I burned off the articulating closed drive rear spring perches and replaced them with mounts from Buffalo Engineering. Buffalo is a one man operation in the NW who does super quality stuff (bomb-proof).
~ Cosmo 1949 Chevy Half Ton Rocinante, like Don Quixote, he is awkward, past his prime, and engaged in a task beyond his capacities. "...my good horse Rocinante, mine eternal and inseparable companion in all my journeys and courses." ...Don Quixote, Cervantes "If you come to a fork in the road, take it."...Yogi Berra "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." ...Eric Hoffer
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#12051 05/02/2005 4:18 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 16 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 16 | Cosmo, The 54 I bought (project) already has the later center section change, but the guy who did it just welded up the old torque tube spring perches. Well the welds broke just loading the truck on the trailer. The whole rearend rotated downward, and won`t roll at all! I see Chevy Duty sells a kit. U bolts,perches, and plates. Does Buffalo Eng. have a web site? Also will flipping the rear springs end to end center the wheel in the fender? Thanks for any help JD
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#12052 05/02/2005 4:39 PM | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | No website for Buffalo. Call him at 360-652-7684. Like Cosmo said, it's a one man show so you'll probably get the answering machine but he will call you back. A good man to deal with. | | |
#12053 05/02/2005 9:25 PM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 297 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 297 | thanks guys - i will go ahead and ask this one while i am at it - will the whole rear end from a 62 chevy work under there if the spring perches are modified? (under a 54) my 235 is out of a 62 chevy pu and i have the transmisson as well. if so, that appears to be a cheaper way of getting a higher rearend ratio.
54 3100 w/62 235 "Yosemite Sam" Born a Jay Hawk, raised an Okie and resurrected in Texas!http://community.webshots.com/user/djed50
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#12054 05/03/2005 2:42 AM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,422 ODSS President | | ODSS President Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,422 | JD, Buffalo knows that and makes provision for centering the rear in the wheelwells. Mind you folks, we're only going from 4.11 to 3.90 here but open driveline means you open the door to a whole host of transmissions. I am running a '62 3sp+od, od=.70, .70x3.90=2.73 highway cruising.
~ Cosmo 1949 Chevy Half Ton Rocinante, like Don Quixote, he is awkward, past his prime, and engaged in a task beyond his capacities. "...my good horse Rocinante, mine eternal and inseparable companion in all my journeys and courses." ...Don Quixote, Cervantes "If you come to a fork in the road, take it."...Yogi Berra "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." ...Eric Hoffer
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