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#1142631 01/03/2016 3:18 AM
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I have done several vin searches on my 59 Apache and came up with nothing. even paid for a search and, Nothing. I was told to try here. vin # as follows 3E59K135940, I don't know if this is a factory 283 engine or a replaced motor. Motor mounts are home made. Thank you in advance for any info. Wm. from S.E. NE.

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Vin number is stamped on the frame drivers side by the steering box/ emergency brake bracket.


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I went to the Vin Buster in the tech tips and it gave this info.

Year.....1959
Model....3600 3/4 ton
Wheelbase.. 123.2
Plant..... Kansas City, Missouri

http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/vin/vinbuster.html



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WM ,We may be cousins My vin ends 0535 rest is same.

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Wm,

I have tons of technical info on my web page...click on Mike's Garage in my signature line.

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to add to what chipmunk said, if the truck had been a factory V8, the vin would have a leading V on the door tag and title, as yours doesn't, it had a 235 from the factory - another way to spot a factory V8 [55-59] is that the front mount "birds legs" attached to a bracket riveted to the front cross member [pic shows a bolted on replacement], they didn't use the side mount points available on SBC blocks .... a '59 would also have had a metal fan shroud similar to this [adapted from same era car]

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Also, an original V8 truck radiator was mounted about 4" aft of the 6 cylinder radiator location and there was a panel to cover the gap between the hood latch panel and the radiator.


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Originally Posted by cletis
Also, an original V8 truck radiator was mounted about 4" aft of the 6 cylinder radiator location and there was a panel to cover the gap between the hood latch panel and the radiator.

That would be true for the 55-57 trucks, but he has a 59. Both the 58 and 59's had the radiator in the 6-cylinder position and used a shroud for the V8's.

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Thanks for the clarification. I did not realize that.


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I have a 58 with the short spindle front engine mounts on a SBC. I have another with long spindle front engine mounts (same as 6 cyl). Which is correct?

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WM - What are the engine codes?

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Originally Posted by Builder
I have a 58 with the short spindle front engine mounts on a SBC. I have another with long spindle front engine mounts (same as 6 cyl). Which is correct?

1955-59 Trucks all used the 7-1/2" long Studs w/ 3/8-24 threaded ends.

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What are the different lengths for then?

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They ALL used the 7-1/2" studs (6-cylinder and V8). If you have something different then they are incorrect for your truck.

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I measured my spare 6 cyl spindle and it was approx 8", then I measured the spindle in my truck for the V8 I replaced the 6 cyl with and I couldn't get an accurate measurement, but from what I was able to see, it looked less than 8". The V8 spindles I am using are after market, so I can't be sure what the OEM spindles lengths are. I'll try to get a better measurement tomorrow.


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The spindles I pulled off my 58 v8 truck had spindles that were shorter than the 6 cyl spindles by an inch. They look like oem.

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I have a question regarding these spindles and spindle mounts for 58 - 59 truck. Aren't the brackets where the spindles attach to the frame different for the V8 as compared to the 6 cylinder mount? If you wanted to swap in a small block in place of the six and wanted to use the front mounts rather than the side mounts, are these brackets re-popped or is the only way to obtain them is to find a donor frame? Thanks in advance. Gary

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Gary, the complete front mount setup is available from the vendors [see links page], including the engine brackets and frame brackets [originally riveted to the frame, but can be bolted]

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Gary,

Here's the link to Classic Parts of America V8 Motor Mounts.

http://www.classicparts.com/1955-59-Original-V-8-Conversion-Set/productinfo/79-375/#.VrGYG7IrK5c

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OK, thank you everybody.

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This is good info to include with the Task Force Tech Tip. I'm not sure if that other fellow included it with his stuff. I'll keep it in the notes.

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