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Hello, I have had my 49 in a local shop for the last seven months. (I am not happy at all).. The guy doing the prep work for me said that the truck had enamel primer before and thats way they kept using that type of primer. He further advised that due to the type of primer and since he had to use a lot of bondo on the doors and fenders it will be better to use enamel paint insted of base coat clear coat, because enamel will cover everything better. He also advised the I could not use catalist primer in top of the enamel primer, can anybody clear this up for me thanks in advance...

Is this where MARTINSTAR says, "pick a paint system and follow the manufacturer directions"?

HA!

I wish I could help but i really don't have any idea.

Doesn't sound right to me... I would think you should be able to use a sealer over the old primer... I've never dealt with this, I usually take 'em down to bare metal. I disagree with the thought that enamel covers better than basecoat/clearcoat. A finish is only as good as what you put it on. Maybe he's not experienced and color sands and polishes the final enamel finish to rid it of the flaws... How much bondo did he use? Maybe he needs to invest in a hammer and dolly... Just my $.02 worth.

Ditto factorybrook! A good sealer is worth the money!
I thought that the problems were acrylics over lacquers..??

the guys full of it if you use a two part primer sealer you can overcoat with urethane and clear if you want or enamel urethane is just enamel with a hardner added sounds like the guy dont want to paint your truck id get it out of there talk to some painters in your area

no you cant over coat with lacquer it will melt whats under it you would need to use a lacquer primer under it lacquer is old tec. no one uses it anymore not even on show paint

Get your truck outta there. He's wasting your time, money and you'll end up with a finish that you are not happy with at all. Besides, it sounds like the jobber doesn't want to do it either... 7 months?

Andy

Sea Dog, where are you located?

I have to add to this one. My truck went to the shop sanded to bare metal. I was told 4-6 weeks. Well 4.50 months later it finally came home. They used a catalyst primer, and CCBC. Looks good. It's in the gallery page (Don Graham) It's the stock Grandpa looking yellow and white '71 fleetside. http://www.stovebolt.com/gallery.htm

Thanks for all the input (am in miami, fl.) is not easy to find people that want to work in this trucks. I went by the shop yesterday and spoke to the owner of the shop he advised that the primer that the truck has now is lacquer primer. He further advised that he could use ppg k38 catalist primer. I am going to take the truck out of there for sure. Do you guys think I should wait for the k38 primer..thanks

Any shop worth anything would not want to put a new coat of paint over unknowns. It takes a lowlevel shop person less than a day to take the whole truck down to bare metal with the proper sanding discs and a variable speed polisher/sander.
Now he can finally assess how much metal repair the truck needs. Only then should he be thinking about fillers. He can then use any brand primer and finish coat he wants.

Stop the work. Ask him how much for the work he did so far. Come to an agreement. (He has you by the shorthairs). Then find a real shop.

Have you looked at any of the cars he's done in
the shop? If you like what he's done, then don't run off to quick. I've had two trucks
done with a single stage paint. Acrylic Urethane is very durable and doesn't use a clear
coat. Now that I've had two trucks with a single stage I acually like them better. Easier
to touch up also. Maybe this is what he's calling enamel. You will have a heavy price to
pay if you take it out. The current shop is going to sock it to you for not letting them
finish the job and the shop you take it to is
going to want to start over because they will
not want to trust what someone else has done.
If you like the work that the current shop has
done to other cars then I would leave it there.
If he bothchs the job, then you can take him to
court and get your money back, maybe.....
Think about it and try not to get the shop mad
at you. Try to work with them, even if you
decide to take it out. Cecil....

square up with him get it out of there a sealer can be put over that primer but dont let him do it you would get a better job at maaco 399. special

if you do leave it there agree on a finish date and stick to it what he well tell you next is he will need more money to finish it its taking more than he thought let us know how you come out

This is why I learned how to do body and paint work myself. I got tired of paying big bucks for shoddy work. Get a compressor and gun and go for it.

Body shops suck!

Well I went by the shop yersterday and bi*** the heck out of the owner and he is going to shot it with PPg K38 primer he promise the truck in two days. And if he cant deliver I will take the truck and pay him 30 percent less of the agreed value...

Well I went by the shop yersterday and bi*** the heck out of the owner and he is going to shot it with PPg K38 primer he promise the truck in two days. And if he cant deliver I will take the truck and pay him 30 percent less of the agreed value...

did you get your truck back