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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 | After looking at this again, I suspect that the windshield trim must have a gap at the top to maybe accept part of the headliner? When I reinstalled the w.s. trim I tightened it down flush to the metal behind it as shown. The truck did not have a headliner when I got it. There might have been some rubber shims like the bottom has, but I don't recall seeing any. Any suggestions? | | | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 | The two pieces should not have the same shape. Maybe one of yours was bent for some reason. Maybe simply bend it back to where it belongs. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 | David, it was never bent since I've had it. It looks too perfect to be accidently bent. Would you tell me if the w.s. interior trim on your truck is screwed fast to the wide metal strip behind it? If you or anyone has a good picture I could probably figure it out. Thanks for your reply, and would like to hear from more of you guys. Steve | | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,201 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,201 | New rubber? I had a heck of a time getting that piece back on my 53. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | If I got it right, that is, what you're asking about, I don't think the trim pieces fit was all that good when it was delivered back in '53. Remember, these were utilitarian vehicles, not show pieces. This is all original, taint been restored, refit or repainted. Top: http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/157186822Bottom: http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/157186823dg
Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 | Thank you Denny! I was hoping you would respond with a good clear picture. I enlarged the pic of the top and it looks like he headliner tucks in under the windshield trim a tad. That would make it somewhat tighter at the top where the bracket meets the headliner I think. Of course I could always bend it I suppose once the h.liner was in place. Steve | | | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 | Installing the center windshield trim (inside to outside) was one of the more difficult tasks on the truck assembly process. Patience is required for sure. The top and bottom trim clips were different from another on my truck. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,747 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,747 | Now I gotta go back and reinstall mine. I put them over the center trim. And they fit just fine. They may have been tweaked some over time but they fit over the center trim just fine. My mirror mount is "T" shaped and covers the top at the headliner gap rather well. So since it would mean fitting into the center trim, PITA. I think on second thought, I will leave it alone. I found mine in one of the boxes of parts the PO gave me when the truck was bought. So when they fit on the outside of the center trim I thought it was how they went.
Steve H
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 | I still don't know if I need to leave the top part of the windshield trim with a gap for the headliner to tuck in. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,286 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,286 | It won't really matter, since the poor-fitting and soon to shrink cardboard will leave gaps all over the place, in my experience.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,747 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,747 | Yep what 52Carl said. i had the headliner in before I finished the trim. It was easy and self explanatory. When you start with a empty cab some things just lay into place and others...well, you know where to ask questions. I am impressed and thankful for the sharing of tips and information on this site.
Steve H
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 | Hey 52Carl, what are the choices besides cardboard and fiberglass? I don't like the idea of the second option for a original truck and cardboard sounds really cheap and difficult to install. Does this sound like a common question? Someone must make one that is better than the ones above. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,286 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,286 | When/if I ever get around to restoring my 50, I plan on taking notes where the poorly fitting areas are due to shrinkage, and make my own headliner with the appropriate corrections.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Same idea here that Carl is planing. I'm going to use my original one and leave an allowance for shrinkage to be trimmed when I fit it up. I'm going to use panel board that the upholstery shops use for door panels and such. It's about the same weight as the original. Only problem with it is getting the color right.
I've bought one from Jim Carter and one from Classic Parts of Am. Both are different patterns and made of thin cardboard, much thinner than the original.
dg
Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 | Thanks Denny. I am going to check some upholstery shops for that panel board.The only problem is I need a pattern. Steve | | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 | 52Carl What kind of material will you use?
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 252 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 252 | I bought (and ruined) two sets - one from JC and another one from a local supplier. I finally bought a set from bowtie_bits on eBay and it fit perfectly. I modified the installation procedure slightly from what I read in the tech tips and it went in beautifully within about 2 minutes. I know we are not supposed to endorse a supplier here but, this head liner is absolutely the best repro I have come across. Supposedly made in America from the original dies. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,286 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,286 | 52Carl What kind of material will you use? Whatever my adoptive great-half-step-uncle-Denny-in-law once removed, recommends. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | That Peter isn't an endorsement, it's a report, and although I'm incapable of being a moderator with my temperament, I'd say report away. Other wise how are we to know where to find the best bang for our buck. What I've used for the glove box that I made for my '50, (had to burn the poor fitting "cardboard ones the vendors sold") was as I posted, panel board or backer board. http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/glove_compartmentHere is just one example of a source for it: http://www.perfectfit.com/15347/154...Black-Treated-Waterproof-Panelboard.htmlIt was the standard years ago in the auto upholstery shops when they needed a ridged backing. It is still used for many projects today but many shops are using a plastic backer as it has the advantage that it can be heated and formed to fit. Do a search for it on the net and you'll spend the rest of the day surfing. Here's a detailed tutorial on using the backer board which could also apply to a headliner: http://www.hotrodders.com/scratch-built/Upholstery:_Interior_Panels I know we have some upholsterers here on the bolt, hopefully one or some will jump in and get their feet wet. DG
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Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 924 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 924 | Denny, will you chime in on 53movinon's other headliner thread?
I haven't put enough thought into my idea for a headliner to recommend anything at all, but these two threads are moving parallel to each other. Thanks.
Brad Wrench Fetcher, PhD | | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 | Thanks once more Denny. It's kinda interesting where this post started and what it morphed into. I Googled both of these sites last nite. Perfect F. caught my eye as well as the other one you posted. Thanks to every one else who replied. Now all I need is a pattern! Steve | | |
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