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Mike Doak | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,310 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,310 | Are you using the second screw which goes on top of the internal screw? It acts like a lock nut would. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,262 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,262 | The problem is the ill fitting female spline on the aftermarket handle, not so much the set screw. The new handle should fit very snug on the male spline on the latching mechanism, but it doesn't. I was told to tightly form aluminum foil around the spline on the door handle mechanism stud before putting the handle on. This is supposed to tighten the fit, prevent the handle from wobbling, thus allowing the set screw to just hold the handle in place and not be subject to the torque of the handle, and thus preventing it from falling off.... FWIW, might give that a try.  | | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,201 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,201 | Part of the problem may be people using the handle as a closing pull. That seems to be the deal in my truck. | | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 | No I am not, I ordered the handles and they only came with one set screw. Where can I get the second screw that acts like a lock washer? Been keeping a screw driver in truck to re tighten but that is annoying!
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Mike Doak | | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 | | | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 | Yes, I even find myself doing that!!!!! | | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | Tony, I remember seeing those "back up screws" on a vendor site but probably a year ago. Probably JimCarter, Classic Parts of maybe the Truck Shop in Ca.
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,310 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,310 | The problem is the ill fitting female spline on the aftermarket handle, not so much the set screw. The new handle should fit very snug on the male spline on the latching mechanism, but it doesn't. I was told to tightly form aluminum foil around the spline on the door handle mechanism stud before putting the handle on. This is supposed to tighten the fit, prevent the handle from wobbling, thus allowing the set screw to just hold the handle in place and not be subject to the torque of the handle, and thus preventing it from falling off.... FWIW, might give that a try.  John, I understand how the foil will take up the slop of the longitudinal grooves, but it is the horizontal annular groove on the shaft which is engaged by the set screw that keeps the handle on. The second screw, which the OP is missing, keeps the set screw tight. Now if the longitudinal grooves in the after market handles are extremely sloppy, I could see the handle falling off, but that would also prevent the handle from doing anything for him. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | skip the set screw, drill it right thru and use a roll pin
Bill | | | | | Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 901 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 901 | On my TF truck I had the same problem. So I did like Don said. Got rid of the set screw you tighten with a screw driver, and got an allen set screw. Which you can tighten down more using an allen wrench. Also the screws on my repop handles were metric.
Brian
Brian 1955.2 3100 Truck The older I get the more dangerous I am!!!!! | | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 | | | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 | Hey that is a great idea. I tried the aluminum foil today and will see how that works. I will think about drilling too. I can see doing that with the correct size screw. I will try the allen wrench first. | | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 | | | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | ...be sure you have a good drill bit. I did the same to one of mine on the panel. Didn't use a roll pin though.
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,214 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,214 | I ordered some allenhead set screws from Classic Parts awhile back and so far so good. Been holding tight for a couples months now. Will try the aluminum foil trick next (if needed) then advance to the drill through phase (to stick a fork in it, so to speak) if it gets that far  Amazing how something thats seemingly so minor can become a major irratent ain't it. Nothing like the sound of a door or window handle falling to the floor board after a bump  Dave | | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 83 | | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 |
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| | | | | Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,262 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,262 | Our local Home Depot has set screws, maybe just dumb luck  ? | | | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 | What about simply using blue locktite on the set screw? | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,310 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,310 | I wouldn't use loctite here, as it would be difficult to remove the handle at a later date. It is challenging enough to work these screws when they are clean. There is no reason why the original extra screw wouldn't lock the set screw in place on a good handle on a good shaft. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 98 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 98 | I wrapped sevral layers of teflon tape around the splines of the shaft then used a set screw on my aftermarket handles. I believe the set screw is a 5mm. Seems to work fine for me.
1952 Chevy 3100 Semper Fi !
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