That's correct. I have none of the ignition hooked up right now. The starter just can't seem to turn the engine over at any speed and even momentarily hangs on occasion. That's why I am saying it won't crank. To me cranking is different than starting. With the foot starter system on my truck I can crank it with the ignition off and not try to start it. Consider it like just using the starter to turn an air pump. No combustion, no spark. All that should be in play are the pistons and valves. It will turn over fine with no plugs in it when using the starter. BUt it still feels tight to me when turning by hand. I consider cranking and "starting" to be two different issues. The problem I am trying to solve first is cranking. Then I can worry about ignition, timing, carburation, etc. If I can get it started it will run and idle, etc. so I am sure that timing, valves, points, etc. are OK. Maybe not perfect, but good enough to let it run. It is the lack of being able to crank it that I am currently concerned with. As I have said before, it cranks just like the battery is dead no matter how good the charge, cables, and connections are.