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#84507 10/19/2007 4:14 AM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 586 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 586 | I have a late 235 that i'm dropping into my '46. I purchased a Fenton dual intake and wonder what carbs i should use. I was thinking a couple of Carter 1 barrels. This is strickly for the street and will only have a mild upgrade in the cam. Tell me what you guys have and your experience with your set up. Cecil......... | | |
#84508 10/19/2007 1:14 PM | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,417 ODSS Lawman | | ODSS Lawman Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,417 | I have Carters after I got sick of cleaning up leaks from my rebuilt Rochesters. Make sure you are a uni-syn tool to dial in the carbs when you get them so they will play nicely together.
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#84509 10/19/2007 2:02 PM | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,317 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,317 | I chose to run a pair of Carter/Webers on my 54 truck with a modified 1960-235.
My goal, from the onset was to build a "cruiser"...a fairly stock appearing truck that I could use on a daily basis, that would be dependable, economical and most importantly, fun to drive. Recognizing the inherent problems I'd encountered with both Rochester B's and Carter YF's over the years, I planned my build to optimize the strong points of the 235 engine and minimize the components that "seemed" to create problems. Fortunately, Langdon's Stovebolt Engineering Co. offered a carb package that fit my needs. The Carter/Weber carbs, with adaptors, linkage kit and even breathers offered bolt-on reliability with excellent tech support, should it be needed. Fortunately, the install and tuning were simple and the end result is worth every penny. Combined with the low end torque cam, a .72 BW T5, a 3.42 R&P, 29" tall rear tire,and a fuel pressure regulator set at 3.5 psi, my truck happily cruises at 65-70 mph at 1900-2000 rpms and AVERAGES 17.5 mpg. It has not missed a beat in 2500 miles since my engine build, and I don't hesitate to make a 100 mile trip to attend a show.
It's this kind of reliability that has convinced me that the Carter/Weber carb combination should be a viable option for anyone who actually wants to drive their truck. If you are interested in the process for both the Holley/Weber single and the Carter/Weber dual installation, I've documented them in my Webshots albums.
I hope this helps you with your plans.
Dave | | |
#84510 10/19/2007 3:24 PM | Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 455 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 455 | I got 2x1 Carter W1 on my daily 235 (see link) and it's the simplest, most reliable and best responding combination I found. The trick is to go with 2 smaller 216 carbs for a street 235. Larger carbs are too much and run too rich, unless you have a bigger cam and do other high-rpm mods to the engine. I got a 216 2x1 and enlarged the intake ports to 235 size, but you can also go with 216-235 adapter rings.
You can find good cheap W1 cores all over the place and there are places online that sell quality carbs kits. I set mine up once after installation and never needed re-adjustments. No leaks. Gives about 18-20 mpg on the freeway with a 3.55 rear. The smaller carbs respond just right for city driving.
The unisyn tool is alright, but inaccurate. Get a small motorcycle carb balancer with dial. The smallest adjustment makes a big difference. And perfect balance between the two carbs is really noticable. | | |
#84511 10/20/2007 4:50 AM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 586 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 586 | Looks like Carter has it. Thanks guys. Cecil........ | | |
#84512 10/20/2007 5:10 PM | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 24 Apprentice | | Apprentice Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 24 | I'm using a 2x1 rochester set-up on a fenton intake. After experiencing a hesitation on acceleration I re-jetted the carbs using #58 jets, the original jets were #48. That corrected the problem. I think I'll invest in a motorcycle carb balancer with a dial readout. good luck | | |
#84513 10/20/2007 7:14 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Although it looks like a decision has been made, I'll add this to what has been discussed.
I used Stromberg BXVD's on my 235 in a three carb configuration. They were very responsive, didn't leak and were easy to tune.
From what I read, the Carters are more mainstream, and quite easy to get parts for, but many old hotrodders used the Strombergs...maybe they knew something we don't know.
Stuart | | |
#84514 10/20/2007 7:22 PM | Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 455 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 455 | You are right: Stromberg spells HOT ROD.
I'm using 2 Stromberg BXOV-2 for my 261. I love that carburetor - maybe the best single barrel available for 216.
I never get rid of my Carter W1s 574s on my 235. My favorite 'organic' looking carb and super reliable for a daily driver. | | |
#84515 10/23/2007 1:16 AM | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 112 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 112 | i bought 2 of the carter webers from langdons stovebolt.....bolt em on and fired em up.......simple... | | |
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