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Hey All,

I just bought this Advanced Design Chevrolet truck from a farmer near my father in-law's farm. I haven't seen it in person yet so all I know is what you can see in the pictures.

Take a look and feel free to hypothesize as to what it is... 1 ton, 1 1/2 ton, 2 ton... or more?

1954? or... and why?

[IMG]http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/tazzeller/1950sGrainTruck1-1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/tazzeller/1950sGrainTruck6.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/tazzeller/1950sGrainTruck4.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/tazzeller/1950sGrainTruck2.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/tazzeller/1950sGrainTruck7.jpg[/IMG]

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Greg

1950 or earlier, no vent windows. I'm not very informed on big bolts but my knee jerk says 1948 2 ton.

Hy Gregger, Welcome, I think your truck is a two ton, and the newest it can be is a 1950 model (turn down door handles and no vent windows). If you can give us the serial number off of the plate on the drivers door post we can decipher it for you.

If no 2 speed rear-end and 7.50 x 20 tires, more than likely a 1 1/2 ton,
Scott

3B -- Wouldn't the fuel tank on the frame vice in the cab (no filler pipe behind the pass door) suggest either a '47 second series or a '48 as FGT says?

Regards,
John

I wanna see the COE.

Hy John Milliman, good catch John, not paying attention again (I'm too broke to pay attention), I know it's a two ton front axle because it has a bolt on "hub cap" rather than a screw in one, and if it was a 2 1/2 ton Maple Leaf it would have Motor wheels, and not the 5/10 Kelsey wheels.

Thanks for all the replies everyone. I REALLY appreciate the help.

Spanky, and other interested bolters, here's the main project I'm building: a 1951 COE

[IMG]http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/tazzeller/1951COE.jpg[/IMG]

It is going to rest where it is, on a farm in Saskatchewan for a while until I complete my current project and plan this trucks new life.

I am likely going to do a chassis swap onto a 1989 Chevrolet 3/4 ton truck I have that is in awesome mechanical condition. It will be a part time, summer work truck that will be put into regular service doing all my weekly 'truck chores'.

I also bought a 1949 Chevrolet pick up to get the 9 foot box to use on the COE:

[IMG]http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/tazzeller/Truck10.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/tazzeller/Truck1.jpg[/IMG]

And, of course, the afore mentioned grain truck I bought to get the visor and other bits 'n' pieces.

By The Way... if you need any parts from the grain truck let me know.

Looking forward to sharing with everyone on here,
Gregger

Thanks for the picture Greg. Good looking COE.

I had the same question.Click on "stovebolt.com" in the upper left hand corner of this window; click on "FAQs" on the left side; click on "Tech Tips"; click on "Identifying Your Truck." You'll find the answer you're looking for in the articles. Good luck!

Hey everyone,
Thank You for your insights, I am learning A LOT!

This insight caught my attention and I would love some more feedback here:


Thanks for this insight.... But... what are 'motor wheels' vs 'Kelsey Wheels' and what are your thoughts on the Kelsey wheels I have?



Also.... My Truck is in Canada (and I assume it will be Canadian). So 3B and others, could you educate me about the differences between Canadian VS US trucks? I have found the list of models, etc. on this site bit they are all American models, anyone have a list of the Canadian equivalents?

Any and all insights are greatly appreciated.

Thank's Everyone,
Gregger

Hy Gregger, I don't know where to start exactly, I'll answer your questions about the wheels though. Kelsey is the name of a wheel manufacturer, and they made the ten hole hub pilot wheels that Chevrolet trucks up to two ton both north and south of the border used (only five studs were used on the front axle). In the States only up to a two ton Chevrolet could be purchased, you could order things like a Thornton Dual Drive setup to convert the truck to a tandem, and thus increase its G.V.W., but these were rare. In Canada we could order up to a Three Ton Chevrolet Maple Leaf truck. The two and a half ton Chevrolet Maple Leaf was Chevrolet powered, the Three Ton Chevrolet Maple Leaf was powered by a G.M.C. full precision bearinged engine. The Chevrolet Maple Leaf trucks were equipped with Motor Wheels, Motor was a wheel manufacturer used by many makes G.M.C. among them. These wheels were also Hub pilot type, their distinquishing feature was a large pivoting washer on the wheel nuts, this washer provided a larger clamping area than the standard wheel nut, hope that helps.

Thanks 3B!
So does this mean that my wheels actually have 10 holes on the front with 5 of them hidden behind a metal ring? Hummmm

I am very interested in all the unique details on the Canadian Trucks. I want to build my truck to emphasize (not change) these unique details. I imagine a lot of my restoration parts will come from the US so I'll need to know which ones are unique.


Anyone have a list of Canadian Truck model numbers and their US equivalents?

Any others want to chime in and discuss differences they have found between Canadian and US trucks?

Thanks again everyone,
Greg

Hy Gregger, yes there are ten holes in your front wheels, there is a cover plate over the wheel. I don't know if anyone has ever compiled a Canadian/American model number conversion.

Just jumping in here as a thought ... would someone want to start a thread for the differences in Canadian and US trucks in General Truck?

At some point, we can wrap it up nicely and Ned can make a tech tip out of it. I'll rummage thru my emails and not and get Tara and Rick Higgins to chime in and maybe eventually we can get that Maple Leaf Tech Tip - posted - I doubt it will ever be finished! But NOW ... I have TED!!!

Working on Gregger's "COE" for the April Gallery now ... stay tuned!


Peg