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1953 Chevy 3100 - currently has a '48 216 in it

I am looking for a 235 to rebuild. Here are my choices

1953 - FREE
1955
1957

From my understanding the 1953 would only be full pressurized oil if it came from a car w/powerglide and it still has babbitted bearings. So although it is free I could only be getting a bit more HP. If I rebuilt it would make sense to have the rods with inserts?

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What is the engine serial number on the 1953?

1955 car or truck engine? If truck, first series is the easiest swap?

What are you looking to "improve": lubrication system and performance?

The 1957 would have a high compression head and best performance, unless the head has been replaced with a pre-1956 head. Water pump (and maybe front motor mount) would need adaptations.

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seeing this is not a daily driver - just lubrication.

they are all from cars.

I was thinking the 57 was the best option. I see they have a plate that could be used to allow me to use a 216 water pump.

so I looked at my current engine a bit closer this am - seems the block is from a 1948 car and the head is from the original 53 truck it is in. Man what a puzzle- would love to know the whole story behind this truck. I know it came to Massachusetts from a Tobacco Farm in Virginia.


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Get the free one anyway especially if it's a pressure motor and keep in mind that some of these motors may not be rebuildable.
High water pump in any case is the way to go, solves so many problems.


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I dug out an old "Motor's Service Manual" and this is what I found. The 56-57 heads were 8.00:1 compression whereas the 58-62 were 8.25:1. The earlier 235's were 7.5:1. The 56-57 engines are listed with a BHP of 140 and 210 Ft.Lbs of Torque. The 58-62 are 135 BHP and 217 ft.Lbs. and the 55 and earlier are 112 BHP and 200ft.Lbs.

Basically, any engine from 56 on up has substatially more horsepower (20- 30%) than the earier engines. As far as the Babbitt bearing 235 goes, I would lump it in with the 216, basically a boat anchor. If it turns over and has good compression, leave it alone and run it. As far as rebuilding goes, well dump it.


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1953 Power Glide 235's are full pressure engines and use the same crank and rods as 1954-62 235's. It is only the stick cars and truck's that were the "Babbitt" engines.
They also have the high mount water pump so no adapter plate is needed.


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Dave, I thought that if a person was putting a '54 and up 235 in place of a 216 and staying with original generator that the adapter plate was needed so the 216 water pump can be used?

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All 1955 pass and 1955 second series truck were the first to use the low mount pump.
The 1953 PG engine or any 54 engine makes a great candidate for 216 replacement as it uses the high mount 216 style pump originally.
I came up with my water pump adapter plate design because I could not find enough 53-54 engines for my needs.

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I'll let Dave answer that. oops, he answered as I typed

Dave,

In your reply, please indicate if all 1955 car 235 engines have the same water pump location (earlier high, or later low); or, if there was changeover during 1955 (from high to low), as there was in truck 235s/261s?

Thanks,

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