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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 255 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 255 | I've read alot of threads about tires, and I think I'm going to stick with the original wheels and tires on my old 1950 1-ton. Last question I have is whether switching from a 7.50-17 to a 7.00-17 will have a significant impact on anything.
On inspection I noticed that three of mine are 7.50, the other is 7.0 and the height (ground to top of tire) is significantly lower, which I like. The selection of tires is not any greater,so its not a matter of availability.
Any advice?
Thanks - Bruce | | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,096 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,096 | I think you have answered your own question here . The difference in size is going to effect the gearing and subsequent road speed , Try this tyre calculator to see the differences http://www.onlineconversion.com/bigger_tires.htm
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 255 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 255 | Now I'm really getting confused. So,a 7.50-17 is a tire that:
7.50" width (sitting on the ground, measured horizontally one side to the other at widest point)
fits a 17" wheel.
So a 7.00-17 tire should be a tire that:
7.00" width (half inch narrower than the 7.5")
fits a 17" wheel.
I would think that the height would be the same on each tire. Or does the tire height vary depending upon its width? Most of the literature I see on bias ply tires don't reference the tire's heigth, just its width and rim size.
Am I mis-interpreting the numbers?
Thx Bruce | | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 | I know that in the metric measurements, the width does affect the height.
| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,878 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,878 | Wider tires are usually if not always taller on these old trucks. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 152 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 152 | Why not stick with a 750x17 Power king offers a nice bias ply in that size.
49 chevy 1-ton. It is a work in progress but it's getting close. 49 1 Ton Pics | | | | | Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 224 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 224 | You have an interesting conundrum. As already mentioned the 7.00x17 Tire will be shorter because it has a skinnier tube resulting in a shorter tire. Tubes don't really allow for different aspect ratios. But I'd be more concerned about the odd tire. Mine came with 7.50x17 singles in the rear and 7.00x17 in the front, which I kind of liked. I eventually converted to tubeless (31" tall), but I think you should match tires across the axle where possible.
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 24 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 24 | Be sure the odd size tire is not on the back axle. It will over work the spider gears in the rear end. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 255 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 255 | well, I went with STA 7.50 x 17 tires with a hiway tread all the way around, we'll see how they ride as soon as the snow clears here in the midwest. I had alot of trouble finding anything in a 17 inch, and even more trouble finding anything with an off-road tread that would have looked cool in the rear. Tornel makes one, but its a bit heavier than I liked.
Since I doubt that the old gal will ever see any rough farm work I think these hiway tires will satisfy the need, but I would have liked to find something that looked a little tougher - after all it is a one-ton. I'm going to keep searching.... | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 | Whiskerbruce- I did some online surfing myself for 7.50x17 tires. Seems as though the STA and Tornels you found are about it for that size. everything else requires a wider rim. Even Interco (Super Swamper maker) has nothing that narrow.
I have found a radial LT235/80/17, it requires a 6" minimum rim, just food for thought. There's a number of different companies that make them. | | | | | Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 268 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 268 | My 1948 GMC 253 one ton has 17 inch rims on the front w/7.50x17 tires and 18 inch duals on the rear, 7.00x18 tires. I had no problem finding bias ply tires. Mine came from Les Schwab...
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 226 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 226 | My tires are 7.00-18 and I found 6 at Lucas Tires in Long Beach. All are expensive, but you need to do what you need to do
Tires 195 ea tubes 30 ea flaps 20 ea
It stats adding up when you get 6!
Now I have 5 old ones to get rid of! | | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 255 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 255 | Well... I broke down and got the STAs. At first the additional height and the narrow girth bothered me, but now they're kind of growing on me. Can't wait until I get the cab and box back onto the frame and I can see just how odd this duck really looks. Found 'em at a truck tire shop on the outskirts of the city. The owner said he always keeps a set of four on hand as every couple of years some old farmer will wander in looking for a tire or four. Ended up paying about the same price as pdlightning, guess its hard to find a bargain when there's only a couple of options out there. | | | | | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 608 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 608 | Just to add a new line to this thread..... I just scored a set of 7.50-17 highway tread tires, brand new off evilbay with free shipping. We,ll see what they are all about when they get here. Estimate is Tues/Wed next week. regards, steve sr. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 255 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 255 | Post some pix when they come in Steve, curious to see what you've found.
Thx - Bruce | | | | | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 608 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 608 | Bruce, Came out of Pittsburgh area. They were del. by fedex at about noon Wed. Wish I knew how to put pics on the confuser. Gotta wait for my daughter or son to show how. They are a NEW set of Power King brand load range D, 750/17 tube type bias plies Highway tread. Uh,Oh,Looks like P R C on the Manu Stamp. Looks like the STA,s pattern, if that helps. regards,steve sr. Try this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/130846542075
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,705 back yard wrench turner | | back yard wrench turner Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,705 | Steve, Great find, and a great price. Those are similar to the tires I have on my '38 1 ton. Mine don't have Sunstone on them. I found them to not be round after installing them.
I had them trued and balanced. It made a world of difference how they roll down the road.
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Wayne1938 1-Ton Farm TruckStovebolt Gallery Forums1989 Silverado 1996 Mustang GT convertible When I die, I hope she doesn't sell everything for what I told her I paid for it! | | | | | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 608 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 608 | Wayne,Thanks,Due Diligence. Now on to Tubes+Flaps. regards,steve sr. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 177 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 177 | Wanted to add another question to this thread, instead of creating a new one with the same topic. I have 7.00x17 on the front, and 17.5x17 on the back. One of the back rims is was sitting in the ground before I bought the truck and is rusted out enough that I no longer trust it. I have been looking around for new rims and was wondering is anyone has had luck with a 16" rim having enough clearance. All of the measurements I have done says it will fit, but I do not have an exact model of the wheel. Here is the wheel I was thinking about: http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/p-432-109292t.aspxIs there any problem going with a trailer wheel? (going with a light truck tire) I figure the the load modern trailers see are going to be a lot higher than what my old truck will be able to do. | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,878 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,878 | There's no substitution for actually trying a wheel to see if it fits.
If the wheel is for trailer use ONLY then I personally would be hesitant to use it on a truck, having a wheel fail is no fun. I have heard of some using them without troubles but you're obviously on your own if anything happens.
I've run 16" multi piece weels on my 52 1 ton pickup and they fit just fine, not sure if the drop center of a 16" tubeless will fit over the rear drums?
If you can find some 8 lug single 19.5" wheels they are the way to go for these old one tons.
Grigg | | | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 177 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 177 | Any advice on where to find wheels that fit the bill? Most of the ones I find are for a dually, or don't fit the style I am looking for.
| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,878 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,878 | If looking for single wheel 19.5" junkyards are your best bet. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 177 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 177 | I was looking to replace all four.
Another 1 ton owner helped me out with some wheels that he purchased, fit the bill for what I am looking for. This should be a closed case in the next week... Now for the interior/motor/rust issues. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 28 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 28 | Could you share the vendor and details? | | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 934 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 934 | Link to Wheel Vintiques - they sell an 8 lug rim for these trucks. The rim is called "82 Series" with 4" rear spacing for the 16 x 7 or 8" and a 5" rear spacing for the 16x10" wheel. http://www.wheelvintiques.com/view-catalogGo to page 40. | | | | | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 608 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 608 | O K Boy,s To add another tidbit. Said I was looking for tubes and flaps. Says there are 2 sets of 5 left. I think its a Great Deal. With Free Shipping! regards, steve sr. http://www.ebay.com/itm/280359620014
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