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#870622 07/30/2012 12:13 PM
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I have what I always thought was a 62' 235,but I'am having a hard time ordering a carb with a manual choke and throttle set up to run in a 51' GMC 3/4. I looked up the numbers,but would like a third party "some one with a bigger brain than mine" to varify. I'll start with the block. (Above the starter)#CON 3 D 24 2 . On the left side of the block # 21 716. Next "the head",Left side above the ports/ 3836848 GM 28. ON the right side is B 61 848/850,which should make it a 56'? Now for the "Intake" right side on top/# 8754644, on the left "15", 3" inch bolt spread,studs are in and out, "not" front to rear,with a 1"3/4 inch throat.I've been ordering replacement carbs by application with out any luck.Is this a car or truck engine? Oh! the exhast manifold # is 8885587/GM13. thanks in advance for any help or advice in getting this mess sorted out! Jimmy

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I looks like you do not have an original intake manifold. Can you post a link to a picture?

B 61 848/850 does not designate anything helpful.

You have a 56-63 235 head: 3836848

The block date code is for 1962: D 24 2

What is the engine ID serial number?
http://www.1954advance-design.com/Web%20images/casting-code-photos/codes-ser-nums.html


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Thanks for the "Pics" (Tclederman),and sorry for the waist of time by not giving you the number you needed most. Engine ID serial #3769716. I'll need A lot of help in the future to send "Pics",and my resident computer experts tell me, "It's not in my future unless I get a new computer"!

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No problem, jimmy1,

3769716 is a bock casting code for a 58-63 block.

The engine serial number ID Is pressed into the block, to the rear of where the distributor enters the block. This should indicate the model truck the engine was first installed. The location of that code is shown in Photo 3.

Also, the block and head date casting codes would be interesting to see.

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Thanks!"We learn as we go",sorry for making it feel like your pulling teeth! Engine serial ID # FO6O6J.Block date? "location"! Head date? "Hope it's not under the valve cover"! jimmy

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The location of the head date casting code is under the valve cover.

You have already given the block date:
D = April
24 = 24th
2 = 1962

F0606J
F = Flint, MI
06 = April oops, June
06 = 6th
J = Regular production truck engine (3100 - 3200 - 3800)

Maybe someone else will comment/correct/clarify the April 6th engine assembly date with an April 24th block casting date? ignored this - see correction, below - I have to learn to be more careful counting on my fingers

Last edited by tclederman; 07/30/2012 9:24 PM. Reason: Corrected month - see below
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I was afraid you were going to say that,but I'am going to pull the cover tomorrow.

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0606 would be June 6th, not April. wink


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Forgot to say "thanks", and all the carbs ordered have been auto 54' thru 62' applications.

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dang

Thanks, Bill

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Most likely an incorrect intake manifold. Someone might have changed it over the years, in order to install a different carburetor. What type of carburetor was on it?

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Pulled the cover, "left side" behind 2/3 ( CON9 ), behind 4/5 (F52). Don't feel bad about being a finger counter,I'am a wrench Fetcher and haven't been alowed at "Black Jack" in years! Math for me stops at 21, and they didn't see the humor in it. Thanks Jimmy

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Rochester 2 Jet on a adaptor spacer! A real "pig in a Poke",just bearly worked with lots of trouble! But it has a " manual" choke and throttle.

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The intake has another #15 under the front intake tube.

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The intake has another #15 under the front intake tube.

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F52
F = 6th month = June
5 = 5th day
2 = 1962

One day before the assembly date? (check me on this)

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Is there an adapter between the intake manifold and the Rochester 2-jet (2GC ?)? If not, someone might have adapted the manifold for the non-standard carburetor.

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Yes,there is an adapter,but its a after market. Is it safe to say the Head is original to the block?

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Originally Posted by tclederman
Most likely an incorrect intake manifold. Someone might have changed it over the years, in order to install a different carburetor
what is the carb stud spacing on the manifold?
tclederman point may need to be addressed.

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3" inches ! what could it be off?

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I believe the later 235 should have a carb spacing of 2 15/16.
Corrections welcomed

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Not this, "intake" #8754644 3" center of stud to center of stud! It would be great to know what I have. jimmy

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jimmy1,

If you mail me a photo, I'll host it and post it.

We are "flying blind" in trying to tell you what you have. You might have a GMC part or other part foreign to a 235.



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