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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | I recently put a new 6v. signal flasher in the truck. To my surprise, it is totally silent. I guess it is a solid state device.
I would really like a flasher unit that make a good loud click when it blinks. This tells me if I have forgotten to cancel the signal.
Are these still made? Anybody got a part number?
Thanks,
Kurt | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,596 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,596 | ClassicParts.com and Jim Carter both carry them. | | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | Your flaps can get them from their warehouse cheaper. No shipping charge. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Kurt,
I have an original '54 flasher and I do not remember hearing it click (and, my Suburban is not too noisy to hear a click). I'll check tomorrow.
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,299 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,299 | The old flashers were a simple bimetallic strip set of contacts. Current made them heat and the difference between the two metal's expansion rates made them curve and break contact. A moment's cooling and they clicked back to making contact again. That is the click you heard. I recall people pulling a boat with extra lights pulling current through a standard flasher, and they woul blink like they were epileptic or something. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | Thanks Tim.
If I cant find one that clicks, Maybe I can wire in a beeper.
Kurt | | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,636 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,636 | I think the Wagner flasher number is 539. Try your local flaps with that number and see. Is it two prong or three prong? | | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | Yes, but do they click?
Kurt | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | I just checked mine - an original 1954 6v GM flasher and signal system. With the engine off, the clicking of the flasher is barely audible.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | | | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,636 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,636 | 535 would be correct for the three prong.
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | 535 is how mine is marked. The one you linked to at Amazon seems to feature "an audible click" Think I'll try one. Thanks.
Kurt | | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | Thanks Tim.
Maybe I can wire in a beeper.
Kurt That's what they used to do on Honda Goldwing turn signals. I had an early 'wing and I used to PO my HD riding buddies with my beep-beep-beep. 
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | Tim,
I ordered the thermal flasher (Bussman 535) from RockAuto. $3.73
Hopein' it's loud.
Kurt | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Kurt,
I hope it is loud, too. It would would be nice to hear an audio recording/report - at 60 mph.
Thanks,
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | Tim,
I'll post an mp3!
Kurt | | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | Tim, Well I got the new thermal flasher installed. It clicks, but I can only hear it if the truck is off! I will say however that it flashes the signal lights more consistently than the silent solid state one. I guess I'll have to install a buzzer or clicker if I want to hear it. Well I poked around some more on the net and I found This Turn-Alarm! They even have a 6v version to replace the 535 flasher. Might have to get one of these puppies! OK, found another at Chevy of the 40's audible flasher Kurt
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Nice, Kurt
Tell me which one you are getting and I will order the other one. I'll need 3, eventually. We can both report back here.
If you are in a web-searching mood, wouldn't it be nice to have an audible turn-signal-clicker AND an audible lights-on when ignition-off buzzer?
Who cares if they are non-standard. I have already run my battery down to 0 three times this Spring, after leaving the lights on (yes, a sign of old age and of working on too many projects at the same time).
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,254 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,254 | So. If the power in is to the X - that is good. But if the power out is backwards (P & L) the switch will not work? I assume the L wire is hot when the key is on. Mine is. But the P wire is not (mine is not). Could this point towards a bad flasher? It would seem like the directional signals should work but not the lights on the switch.
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | Well I think the p should go to the dash light, L is for "load" and would go to the signal lights, and x is power in.
My suggestion (this actually was in a different thread, and now we are going to confuse everyone) Was that if the wires to the L and p terminals were reversed, you would be drawing a heavy load through the P terminal, and this might burn something out internal to the flasher. I don't know how the flasher is wired internally, so this is a guess.
If you have a continuity tester or a VOM you could test this.
Kurt
You might | | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | Tim,
I'm going to get the one from "Turn Alarm"> It's $10 cheaper, and looking at the pictures, I think it is the same one that Chevy of the 40's is selling.
I'm also checking to 6 volt relays that click loudly.
Kurt | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Kurt,
The Chevs of the 40s is part #552 and they say it is a 6v unit. Turn Alarm says that #552 is a 12v unit.
I am going to hold off on buying one. Please let us know how well it works.
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | | | | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 639 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 639 | This isn't as simple but it's a cheap do-it-yourself. The info is for a 12 volt motorcycle but the concept is the same. Lots of good info here and I like that you can wire in volume control and even pick and choose you beeper-buzzer. http://www.lsvl.info/MotorbikeTurnSignals.pdf | | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | Twotone,
Thanks for the schematics. As it turns out, I just got back from testing my new audible turn signal buzzer. After the conversation with Tim, I went to Radio Shack and picked up a couple of buzzers. Both buzzers will work on either 6 or 12 volts.
They are: 273-0055 7.0 to 17 vdc (will work on 6) 75 db 300-500hz
273-0059 3.0 to 20vdc 75db 2700hz.
I tried them both out by wiring them to the P terminal of the flasher and to ground. Both were a little loud and more than slightly obnoxious. I liked the one that sounds at 300-500hz as it is a lower tone.
I love the idea of putting a potentiometer on there to control the volume , and I will will try that next. I already installed led indicators, so I have that covered.
Tim, I don't think I'm going to buy the buzzing flasher from turn alarm, as I think I just made the same thing for about $4 bucks.
Kurt | | | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 18 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 18 | I just bought and installed the flasher from Chev's of the 40's. The wife heard it inside the house from 35 feet away. Yes, the truck was engine off, but me, even half deaf, I don't think I'll be able to miss the tone this puppy gives off. I plan to take it out tomorrow and see. Mike49 | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | | | | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 18 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 18 | | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | | | | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 18 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 18 | Mind you it's not a clicker, more kind of a buzz tone. part number from the invoice is: 1335230TA ALL discription: flasher-turn signal 6 volt, (3 prong) w/audible signal. price (sit down) $33.75
I know it's steepI'm OK with the cost, I've gone 5 miles down the road with my blinker on before I think to look down, and feel like a fool. mike49 | | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | I have been driving around the past few days with my new "homemade" signal buzzer. Works well. However, if I am driving 60 with the windows down and the cozy wings open, I can just barely hear it buzz. I'could put the louder of the two on there, but it becomes very irritating at a stop light.
Kurt | | | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,421 ODSS President | | ODSS President Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,421 | I've been using a Radio Shack buzzer for ten years now, just put it inline, works great.
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 | Kurt -
You might do better by hooking an indicator light to the panel light prong of the flasher, then mounting the light where it won't be noticed until it flashes.
I'm lucky ... my '54 has a turn signal indicator light at the bottom of the speedo. It gets my attention when I leave the turn signal on. My Signal-Stat 900 is not self-canceling. I see the panel light better than the indicator light on the Signal-Stat. I can usually hear the flasher click, but not always over the engine noise.
I think a pizo buzzer would drive me crazy! But I would definitely turn off the signal.
- Lonnie My '54 3104Photos that I have shared on Stovebolt via PhotoBucket are no longer available. Please contact me if you want a photo from an old post. lonniecook [at] aol [dot] com. I sold my '54 3104 12/12/2017, but I still visit Stovebolt. OLD STUFF ... houses, furniture, cars, wine ... I love it all | | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,201 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,201 | The easiest thing to do is just accept the fact that you have become THAT old guy who drives around with his left turn signal on all the time.  | | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | Yeah, OK. I am that old guy. LOL. This just wasn't a problem for the first 30 years I owned the truck with no signals. I was quite adept at using hand signals, but after about the 10th time somebody waved at me one day as I signaled for a right turn, I realized that nobody knew what the heck I was doing. Lonnie, I have installed some cute LED left and right blinkers attached to the left and right signal wires, but they are mounted in the slots of the radio grill, and I still miss 'em sometimes. LED indicators in 4 way flash mode. Kurt | | | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 18 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 18 | Well, I tried the blinker buzzer out on the road. yes I can hear it windows open going down the road at 45. It is quite annoying at stop lights though. I make sure to turn them off as soon as the turn is complete! For me I feel they are worth it although I did see there in another supplier about $10.00 less. Mike49 | | | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,421 ODSS President | | ODSS President Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,421 | Well, I tried the blinker buzzer out on the road. yes I can hear it windows open going down the road at 45. It is quite annoying at stop lights though. I make sure to turn them off as soon as the turn is complete! For me I feel they are worth it although I did see there in another supplier about $10.00 less. Mike49 Too loud? That is what duct tape is for. Partial cover/full cover to the audible level that works but is not too invasive.
~ Cosmo 1949 Chevy Half Ton Rocinante, like Don Quixote, he is awkward, past his prime, and engaged in a task beyond his capacities. "...my good horse Rocinante, mine eternal and inseparable companion in all my journeys and courses." ...Don Quixote, Cervantes "If you come to a fork in the road, take it."...Yogi Berra "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." ...Eric Hoffer
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 835 | OK, where do you get one of those?
Kurt | | | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 940 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 940 | Kurt, Check your PMs.  | | |
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