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I'm sick of my original 235 carb and believe that I can get better performance & economy with a small two barrel carb. I want one that will bold right on and has a manual choke. Any suggstions?

Check out the Holley-Webers on my 46 pickup in the gallery, Jim Merritt's 46. As with any carb, I had to play with jets a bit but there's much to be said for running a NEW carb vs the 50 year old ones we all fight with.
These are available new or rebuilt from 'Langdon's Stovebolt, he also has the adaptor to bolt right on. Check out WWW.stoveboltengineco.com
Or call Tom at 586 739-9601
Best of luck

I highly recommend the Holley/Weber set up mentioned above. (Just don't tell anyone you put a Pinto carb on your Chevy! )
Boo

Thanks, I'm going to check out that link. Can't I just get an old Pinto carb from the junk yard and slap it on? Which other vehicles can I rip a carb from?

Jim: WOW! That 46 Rocks...

Here's my 62. I just repainted it about 3 weeks ago.

http://www.stovebolt.com/gallery/ballard.htm

The Holley/Weber I got from Tom at stovebolt was tagged as a Delco rebuild. I'm told they used them on the Chevy Vegas and Monzas, on the old "iron duke" 4 cyls. as well. You might find one in the bone yard, but you'll still need the adapter to bolt it on.

Yachtcare: Thanks for that info. I'm going to call around tomorrow and see what I can find. Maybe it would be cost effective to get a rebuilt one from Autozone. If I find one at the bone yard I may be able to get the air cleaner too.

i have a webber with cleaner that came off a running datson it looked new at the time 5 years ago is this the kind the will fit a chev 6

Hey Tab, a suggestion to help in your shopping. I got the rebuilt carb, the new adapter, the new air cleaner, and the LINKAGE adapter as well, all from Tom Langdon for around $100.00 including shipping less than a year ago, and friendly one on one advice from Tom when I had questions about installation. It was all at my door within two days after ordering. IMHO, you cant beat Tom Langdon's price, and the one stop service for what your getting at any bone yard.

Yachtcare:

Yeah, sometimes doing things on the cheap ain't so cheap. I'll order the parts from him soon. He has some ignition units that I might get too. I need a better spark.

Tony P showed me his Holley/Weber setup that he made by re-machining the original manifold to accept the new carb without an adaptor. You may get better performance that way.

I am going to be doing what Four mentioned Tony P did next month when I do my rebuild. It has to give you better performance, because the adapter, although quite handy and easy to mount, is a real strangulation affair.

Boo

The Carter Weber looks like a better carb than the Holley Weber and is a bit more expensive. Are these carbs vacuum secondaries or mechanical? If it has an auto choke I will remove it.

I will go with the adapter plate. My truck ain't no hot-rod. It's a 62, 3/4, long bed, step-side. I'm just hoping for a cleaner burn, a bit more power and better economy.

Would like to update my old carb as well. With these Weber-types can you still hook up the choke/throttle cables?

That's what I want to know too. How much fooling around is involved in this swap and which carb is better, the Holley or the Carter. I also want to keep my manual choke.

The Carters that Langdon has are way to small to run just one on a stovebolt. The choke on the holley/weber 5200 is a water heated choke I strongly encourage you to try. You'll love it, guaranteed!
Boo

Thanks for that info! I do not like auto chokes and I don't want to run a water line to the carb. IMHO, there is no need for an automatic choke. I hate them, and they me....

The Holly/Webber's from Langdon are available with electric choke also.

Have to ask for them and they can be hard to get at times.

Run a wire and go!

I sometimes for fun, search the "parts and accessories" section on ebay for: 5200,the (Holley-Weber number). Lots of these carbs and parts turn up, most are used and abused and the new/rebuilt ones are much more expensive that from Tom. I adapted mine to manual choke, helps alot and no extra plumbing needed. Manual choke kits are available at just about every discount auto parts store anywhere.

hotrod6: I would consider an electric choke but I really really like my manual. I may check out the scrap yards for a two barrel and just buy the adapter plate.

My truck sits for 2 and 3 days at a time, and sometimnes longer. With the water heated choke I pump the throttle once, bump the key, and it starts. About 30 seconds later, when the oil pressure reaches about 40#, I drive off. No stutter, no stammer, no feathering the throttle, just pull out on the state hiway and join the traffic. You can't do that with a manul choke. I know because my first 5200 had one.

Boo

Boo and others,

How did you set up the linkage from the accelerator pedal to the carbs? Is there a kit available for this?

If you messed with the jets, where do you find different sized jets and how difficult is the jet-sizing procedure? Does Langdon's put a particular sized jet in his carbs (I will ask him but I am interested in the first-hand experiences of others).

Since I am already running water to heat the intake (smoothed out acceleration very nicely), the water-heated thermostat sounds like a good option.

Thanks a lot.

Happy New Year, Tim

Per Langdon's catalog, you should also order the linkage kit. This is no cheapo kit, nice components, which I was able to use with original bell crank, throttle etc. I've compared prices locally and online, Langdon's are the best deal, especially when you consider his support after the sale. The guys at my local parts house didn't believe me re. the price on Tom's H/Ws.

On my 261 it was apparent that the secondaries were way to lean, ended up with #550s and that did the trick. All I did was give Tom a call and he sent me some jets to try.

These H/W jets can be either listed in inches, metric or with mine the flow rating no. 550 (stamped no. on jet). Have also been told that the Weber jets will fit as well as the H/Ws.

Per my contacts with some of the strictly WEBER carb dealers, I get the feeling that they dont really want to recognize thier bastard cousin 'Holley', made in USA versions. Many of the parts appear to be the same but that carb I believe is a mirror image of the H/Ws so parts like chokes are backwards.

As the guy who has tried many different carbs on a modified 261,it's my opinion the Holley Weber is way over rated.You can bolt on any properly jetted carb on your stock manifold and see a big improvement over the Rochester B or Mono whatever.
I've taken the model 1904 Holley single barrel from the 50's Ford 223 6 or 60's Mopar slant 6,fiddled the linkage to fit, bolted it on a 235,unreal improvement.A Carter will do the same magic and both of them need no adapter.
The single H/W's work well, but part throttle power is reduced for a slight gain at higher speeds, and it's gotta be the ugliest carb ever built

Boo: I don't have any trouble with a manual choke what so ever. I have one on my 62, 3/4 ton and on my 04 Harley. Auto chokes were originally designed for women who couldn't figure out a manual choke. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I agree about H/W being ugly. Works fine for me but still replacing with Edmunds with 2 94s.
Dennis

I just did a quick rebuild on my stock carb and I'm going to slap it back on and forget about it. If I find a two barrel at the scrap metal yard (they had a dumpster full of carbs last I checked) I will pick one up for a few bucks.