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#689169 10/25/2010 11:53 PM
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Hi all,

In a previous post I informed everyone of my 48 Loadmasters 216 engine demise. I have purchased a 250 out of a 1978 Chev. van. I have located the correct bell housing and flywheel but I am going to need a front engine mount.Does anyone have such a mount or know of anyone who offers a custom mount for this swap? I am sure it has been done before. Thanks again for all the tips and advise. One more thing, where would be the best place to tap into the intake manifold for my vacuum port?

JMH

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The 216ci. 6 cyl., is a Thriftmaster. The Loadmaster 6 cyl., is a 235ci. engine. What series is your truck?


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engine swap link and mount info
http://www.streetrodderweb.com/tech/0305sr_chevy_six_cylinder_swaps/index.html
250 specs
The stroked 250 version produced 155 hp (116 kW) for Chevrolet and GMC. Between 1975 - 1984, an integrated cylinder head was produced, with one-barrel intakes for passenger cars, and two-barrel intakes for trucks after 1978.

During the mid-1970s, the Buick 231 and Chevrolet V6-90 (basically a variant of the Chevrolet small block V8) was replacing the Chevrolet 250 for use in passenger cars and light duty trucks/vans. Passenger car use of the 250-cubic-inch (4.1 L) engine was discontinued after the 1979 model year for North America (along with the Chevrolet 292) since the six was restricted to light truck usage (the 4.1 was discontinued after 1984 in North America where the Vortec 4.3 V6 became the base motor). Brazil held on to the 250 (Known as the 4.1 there) until 1998 for passenger cars when the Chevrolet Omega A was replaced by rebadged Australian Holdens. was held in Brazil for up to 2001 in Chevrolet Silverado when the line was extinct. It would be GM's final inline six until the introduction of the GM Atlas engine in late 2001.

This engine was used on the following vehicles:

* 1966-1984 Chevrolet (passenger cars to 1979, trucks/vans to 1984)
* 1968-1974 Chevrolet 400 Super Sport (Argentina)
* 1972-1974 Chevrolet 400 Rally Sport (Argentina)
* 1968-1976 Pontiac Firebird
* 1968-1970 Pontiac Tempest
* 1968-1976 Pontiac LeMans
* 1968-1969 Buick Special
* 1968-1972 Oldsmobile F-85
* 1975-1976 Oldsmobile Cutlass
* 1971-1975 Pontiac Ventura
* 1968-1971 Buick Skylark
* 1968-1979 Chevrolet Camaro
* 1969-1979 Checker Marathon
* 1971-1992 Chevrolet Opala (Brazil)
* 1998-1999 Chevrolet Tahoe (Argentina)
* 1995-1998 Chevrolet Omega A (Brazil)
* 1998-1999 Chevrolet Silverado - (GMT400) (Brazil)
* 1970-1974 Puma GTB (Brazil)
* 1988-1992 Puma AMV (Brazil)
* 1979-1994 Chevrolet Veraneio (Brazil)

[edit] 250-S

When the long duration races restarted in Brazil, in 1973, the Opala found a great competitor, the Ford Maverick, which was powered by an engine whose displacement was almost one liter bigger. It took Bob Sharp and Jan Balder, that gained a second place in the "24 Hours of Interlagos", in August of that year in an Opala, to pressure GMB to field on race tracks a more powerful engine.

By coincidence, engine development manager, Roberto B. Beccardi, was working on this engine hopping up project out of his own initiative, but he did lack impulse from factory and was not obtaining any approval. This impulse came right from these two pilots.

Thus, in July 1974 GM started to offer the 250-S engine as an option for the Opala 4100. It was slightly different from the version that would be launched two years later: the project of the motor was similar to that of the four cylinders units, did not get a vibration damper and the cooling fan came from the standard 2500, with four blades instead of six.

The Opala was now much faster than the Maverick GT and Ford did not waste time. It quickly homologated a version with four barrel carburetor,called "Quadrijet" in Brazil, and have no relationship with GM own Rochester Quadrajet carburator, found on various GM engines. In the racetracks, the accounting determinative factor for winning was pilots skill and pit organization on the track. The rivals walked side-by-side.

The 250-S has 171 Horsepower and 229.7 lb.-ft. at 2,400 rpm.

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* 1974-1980 Chevrolet Opala SS (Brazil)
* 1977-1980 Chevrolet Opala Caravan SS (Brazil)
* 1981-1988 Chevrolet Opala - All Line (Brazil)
* 1974-1987 Puma GTB (Brazil)
* 1978-1988 Santa Matilde SM4.1 (Brazil)

[edit] L22

The L22 was a 250-cubic-inch (4.1 L) I6 engine produced from 1967 to 1979. The '78 Camaro had 105 horsepower (78 kW) and 190 ft·lbf (260 N·m) of torque with the 250.
[edit] LD4

The LD4 was a 250-cubic-inch (4.1 L) I6 engine produced strictly in 1978.
[edit] LE3

The LE3 was a 250-cubic-inch (4.1 L) I6 engine produced from 1979 to 1984.


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Spanky,

My truck is I think a 6600 series. It has a 16,000 lb. rating with a 2 speed rear.I was under the impression I had the 216. Do I have the 235? In any event its toast now. It will have a 250 shortly.

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With a 16000lb. gvw, it's going to be a 6100, 6400, or 6500 series, depending on the wheelbase. All of the 6000 series trucks came standard with the 235ci. Loadmaster engine.


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1948 Chevrolet 5700 COE Holmes HD W35 Wrecker
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Spanky,

Thanks for the info. Do you know which series goes with each wheelbase? If you do then maybe I will know exactly what I have.

JMH

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6100= 137"in. wheelbase, 6400= 161"in. wb, 6500= 179"in. wb.


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1948 Chevrolet 5700 COE Holmes HD W35 Wrecker
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1950 GMC 250 1-Ton
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I installed a 250 and auto in my 53-3/4t, I used the factory mounts from a 69 1/2t then welded tabs on the frame to connect to. I had to build a crossmember for the trans, and removed the original bell housing crossmember. I used a footfeed and cable from an 80's Chevy. I'd say your vacuum portal could be placed anyplace around the carb base,,, I assume you need this for the wipers, power brakes etc. Keep on trukin'

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Hi all,

Thanks for all the tips and info. I now know for sure I have a 6100 series. We got the old engine out today and did some inspection of frame, cross members etc. and have settled on a universal fit front cross member, the bell housing we will need, rear mounts and a new clutch and flywheel. I think while I have everything out I will examine the innards of my trans. and make any needed upgrades(seals,change oil etc...)I have the standard SM420. Does anyone have any tips on what to look for during my exam? Mainly what oil should I use.
When I learn how to post a picture I will let everyone see what I have been working on. One thing I noticed when we removed the old engine was how much heavier it was than the 250. The thing weighed a ton!Also the head was much thicker than the 250. Basically they were much the same. At least I wont have to have the choke pulled out on this one for it to run(old story).

Thanks again,
JMH

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They fellow who got my 54 has dropped a 250 in it. He had to drill new holes in cross member to accomidate bell housing and weld in mounts for the front mounts. also moved radiator forward to clear water pump. the 54 transmission bolted right up to mid seventys bell housing. He decided to eliminate the hydrovac and installed a ford firewall mounted dual resivoir master cylinder and pedals cable pull throttle from unknown year chevy.


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