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#68020 10/31/2006 2:27 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 243 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 243 | thinking on switching out my 3 on the tree for a 4 speed on the floor, how tough of a swap will this be? will i have an advantage of higher 4th gear??? or just a lower 1st gear? thanks guys | | |
#68021 10/31/2006 3:16 PM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,378 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,378 | If you go with a stock 4 speed you'll gain a granny gear low. The final drive ratio will still be the same. When I put a 4 speed in my 55 1st I had to have a drive shaft made & cut a hole in the floor to clear the top of the shift tower.
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#68022 10/31/2006 3:17 PM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | tough? unbolt one, bolt in the other
any high gear is 1:1
the low gear in the old 4 speeds is useful if you need to let the truck drive itself while you throw the hay bales onboard
Bill | | |
#68023 10/31/2006 6:56 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 243 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 243 | bill can i use the same drive line as the 3 speed? unbolt the 3 speed and switch out the 4? same closed drive shaft??? | | |
#68024 10/31/2006 7:02 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 243 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 243 | anyone have a 4 speed trans they wanna sell? | | |
#68025 10/31/2006 7:37 PM | Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 127 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 127 | Why do you want to change? (just wondering)
1952 Chevy 5 Window Restoration
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#68026 10/31/2006 8:18 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 243 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 243 | just a thought dont really know might ..might not... | | |
#68027 10/31/2006 8:19 PM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,378 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,378 | Originally posted by dbone:
bill can i use the same drive line as the 3 speed? unbolt the 3 speed and switch out the 4? same closed drive shaft??? I should clarify, my 55 1st was an open drive line and the 4 speed tranny I bought out of the local salvage yard out of a 2 ton truck. The length was longer than the 3 speed so I had to have a shorter driveshaft made. I don't know if a PU 4 speed would be the same length as the 3 speed or not.
Save a life, adopt a senior shelter pet.
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#68028 10/31/2006 9:31 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 243 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 243 | well more i think about it more sence it makes to leave it a 3 on the tree can haul the kids better no one has to straddle the shifter.... haha | | |
#68029 11/01/2006 12:18 AM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 4 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 4 | I swapped a saginaw 2 ring 4 speed into my 53 gmc and I love it. It's better through the gears. First gear is not quite as low as stock. Gets through traffic alot better. I'm also running a 3.08 gear. Oh! and an open driveline. I'm also using Patrick's custom Hurst shifter kit. Shifter sits real nice in the cab with this kit. Mine was originally a 3 on the column. | | |
#68030 11/01/2006 12:59 PM | Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 322 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 322 | ctreser,
what did your saginaw come out of?
Blue 50
1950 3100 w/57 235
Patrick’s Saginaw 4 speed and 3:55 rear end
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#68031 11/02/2006 2:54 PM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4 | Wow, ctreser read my mail! I did the same swap in my '63 C-10 292 six. Mind saginaw is 3 ring and I picked it up at a swap meet and had it rebuilt. Fit right in no changes! It changed the way the truck drives completely! I start in second unless I have a load or on a hill. Fully syct and fun to drive with Patricks kit looks like the original top loader 4-speed. Get rid of that 3-tree....This is the way to go!!!
oldndragon
1963 C-10
1936 FA coupe | | |
#68032 11/02/2006 5:36 PM | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 257 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 257 | Originally posted by dbone:
anyone have a 4 speed trans they wanna sell? dbone, look for the post from me in the 4 sale section. If you're ever out this way, I have a 4-speed and torque tube rear end from a '50 3100 that I'd love to see it go someplace other than my garage. RedGreen | | |
#68033 11/02/2006 11:29 PM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,756 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,756 | I have one behind my garage you could have for free but I really don't think you would be happy with it, as was said previously, all you gain is the grannny gear. You want a t5 4speed so you will have a 4th overdrive. | | |
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