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#66745 10/03/2006 3:31 AM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 428 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 428 | Is it the duration between the time the points open until they are closed again? How is it set and what should it be set at on a 350? | | |
#66746 10/03/2006 3:41 AM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | Other way around, it's the time in camshaft degrees that the points are closed to saturate the coil. According to the manual, it's 28-32, you will need a dwellmeter to set it correctly. You can set the point gap at .019" as a starting point.
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#66747 10/03/2006 3:43 AM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | In the earlier years the distributors had a little metal door on them that you could raise up and put in a small allen wrench and turn it until the dwell reading was what you wanted. Back then I think it was around 18-22 but my memory is foggy that far back. Back then most folks had a "RPM/Dwell meter combination. Later years I can't speak to. I don't remember what year it was that everything went to electronic ignition. | | |
#66748 10/03/2006 5:16 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,832 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,832 | Bill is exactly right and if your 350 has a points type distributer it should have the point access window. With this type distributer you can set the dwell with the engine running. On ford and chrysler (and others) you can hook your leads up and set the point dwell with a screwdriver while spinning the engine over with the starter. Closing increases dwell. opening decreases.
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#66749 10/03/2006 5:28 AM | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 | Hy guys, just a tip, always set your dwell first, dwell affects timing, but timing does not affect dwell. One degree of dwell affects timing by one degree, hope that helps. | | |
#66750 10/03/2006 8:02 AM | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 236 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 236 | Does anybody knowwhy they didn't have that adjustment screw on the outside of the distributors for the 6 cylinders? Did they think that the people who bought the trucks with the 6 cylinder engines wouldn't mind having to take of the cap, adjust the dwell, put the cap back on, check the dwell, take the cap back off, re-adjust the dwell, etc. It was a big enough PIA for me to install a Pertronix electronic ignition conversion kit.
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#66751 10/03/2006 2:42 PM | Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 687 | I don't know why 6 cyl. engines didn't have a dwell door. If you have a door on your cap, when the dwell is properly set and the timing properly adjusted. The next time you replace your points, and you adjust your dwell (running) you won't have to reset your timing. (check it anyway)
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#66752 10/03/2006 10:04 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | If you set the point gap right the dwell will fall in specs. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
#66753 10/03/2006 11:23 PM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 428 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 428 | Thanks for all the good info. I have never checked the dwell in the past, mainly because I didn't know anything about it. I would always set the point gap at .019 and if the engine ran good, it was good enough for me. Figured there was no need in overcomplicating the situation. | | |
#66754 10/03/2006 11:51 PM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,031 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,031 | just an FYI...... if some of you have an HEI dist you don't have dwell.
since you mentioned a 350, it may have a more modern dist.
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#66755 10/04/2006 12:24 AM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | Actually, an HEI has dwell, it's operated electronicly, as opposed to the opening and closing of mechanical points.
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#66756 10/04/2006 4:12 AM | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 622 Member | | Member Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 622 | A while back I took a coil from my 81 Dodge Colt and put it on my 62, 235. It seems to run OK but it sure could use more power. I was wondering if that coil could be causing me problems.
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#66757 10/04/2006 5:46 AM | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,067 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,067 | No, it's probably the fact that it's a 235 I'm afraid. They run good but don't make a lot of power.
Yeah, I gave up on points too. Pertronix just makes it so easy for very little money.
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#66758 10/04/2006 4:26 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 637 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 637 | 6 cyl's. don't have an outside adjustment for dwell, probably because the distributor is smaller than the v-thing, and the points for adjustable dwell are pretty bulky and probably wouldn't fit inside the 6 cyl. distributor. | | |
#66759 10/04/2006 5:39 PM | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 236 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 236 | Originally posted by bigbassmann: Thanks for all the good info. I have never checked the dwell in the past, mainly because I didn't know anything about it. I would always set the point gap at .019 and if the engine ran good, it was good enough for me. Figured there was no need in overcomplicating the situation. When I still had points, I would set the gap, then check the dwell. I was of the opinion that what really counted in terms of the coil discharge was the dwell angle; the point gap was just a means of estimating what the dwell was based on the shape of the distributor shift and the distance between the the points. The larger the distance, the greater the angle traveled by the distributor shaft before the points close. While the point gap should be an accurate indication of the dwell angle, it isn't exactly the same thing. Therefore, I felt that it was more accurate to measure the actual dwell angle after setting the point gap to get it in the ballpark (within a few degrees). Thanks for the explanation of why the 6 cylinder distributor doesn't have an exterior means of adjusting the points. I've never seen one of the V8 distributors, but what you say makes sense.
58 Fleetside, 235, "The Old Buckin' Bronco"
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