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#661788 07/12/2010 3:00 PM
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I replaced the rear axle on my '57 3800 dual rear wheels with one from a '70 C30 single rear wheels to get the 4.10 ratio. The '70 axle looks identical to the '57 except for these 1 1/4" spacers on the hub.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn214/jfnar/57%20chevy%203800/DSCF1146.jpg
Here's my '57 axle. http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn214/jfnar/57%20chevy%203800/DSCF1147.jpg
Can these spacers be removed? Will I have to swap the drums from the '57 axle? Any advice will be appreciated.

Jeff

Last edited by jfnar; 07/15/2010 3:27 PM.

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I don't see any spacers, what I see is the hub.
The difference is the new axle has the drums mounted inboard of the hubs and the original had them outside the hubs.

Grigg


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The problem I've got is that this axle is 2 1/2" wider from mounting surface to mounting surface. I guess I can swap back to the '57 axle and change pumpkins. Is there an easier way to fix this?


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What distance do you need from mounting surface to mounting surface?

possibly a different axle or simply different hubs will solve the problem.

Also, what model axle do you have? Is it a GM "__ bolt" axle, or something different?

I found a 14 bolt that's about 62.75" for my 52 single wheel 1 ton, look here for info on it and links to measurements for other 14 bolt options
https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=599879#Post599879

Grigg


•1951 GMC 250 in the Project Journals
•1948 Chevrolet 6400 - Detroit Diesel 4-53T - Roadranger 10 speed overdrive - 4 wheel disc brakes
•1952 Chevrolet 3800 pickup
---All pictures---
"First, get a clear notion of what you desire to accomplish, and then in all probability you will succeed in doing it..." -Henry Maudslay-
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The '57 axle that was original to the truck is approximately 53" from mounting surface to mounting surface. The '70 axle is 55.5". I need the 53" dimension to make the rear wheel track width close to the same as the front. It doesn't look right to me now with the wider rear wheel positions. Both axles are HO72. The '57 axle has 4.56 gears and the '70 axle has 4.10 posi. I had a neighbor who was a mechanic and needed some work so I asked him to switch the pumpkins for me. He switched the entire axles instead, thinking he was doing me a favor. Sadly, he got sick shortly after doing the switch and passed away a couple of weeks ago. As the saying goes, "no good deed goes unpunished." So I guess my punishment will be to change the axles back and switch the pumpkins. What to heck; this is not a good hobby to play with if you're alergic to wrenches.


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Sounds like you already have the solution.

Investigate your axles, hubs, and measurements to be sure swapping hubs and brakes (if possible) is not a better possibility than changing complete axle housings.

Grigg


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•1948 Chevrolet 6400 - Detroit Diesel 4-53T - Roadranger 10 speed overdrive - 4 wheel disc brakes
•1952 Chevrolet 3800 pickup
---All pictures---
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Most all 1967-72 Chevy 3/4ton pumpkins with fit right in the 1946-66 1-ton housing and you can use your original axels, bearings, brakes etc. I finished a swap about 5 months ago putting a 4.10 pumpkin from a 1972 Chevy 3/4 ton into a 1946 Chevy 1-ton housing....bolts right up. They must be the EATON full floating rear end.
Brian


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