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#64154 08/09/2006 11:48 PM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 50 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 50 | I have a glass bowl fuel pump I bought from Chevy Duty last year. Just now able to get everything else done to try and crank. I'm getting gas to the fuel pump bowl, but no fuel out the other side going up to carb.
Any ideas other than possibly a defective pump? I know it's pulling fuel to the pump because I emptied glass bowl. Truck turns over and bowl fills back up with fuel.
Thanks!
1951 Chevy 3100 w/235
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#64155 08/10/2006 12:29 AM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | Are you not getting gas at the carb or no gas at the outlet side of the pump. IF you are only checking at the inlet side of the carb, pull the line at the outlet side of the pump and turn the engine over. If you get gas there when turning the engine over you have a plugged gas line between the pump and carb. If you don't get gas at the outlet side of the pump with no line connected you have a bad pump. The other alternative would be no gas to the pump but if your bowl fills that shouldn't be the problem.
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#64156 08/10/2006 12:43 AM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 50 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 50 | I did pull the line at the outlet on the pump. No gas is coming out of the outlet of the pump. I do have gas in the glass bowl so I know I'm getting fuel to the pump. Is it possible to have it mounted upside down and it still pull fuel into the glass bowl?
My glass bowl is on top.
1951 Chevy 3100 w/235
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#64157 08/10/2006 1:14 AM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 22 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 22 | I think the glass bowl should be on the bottom. Just a guess from seeing others.
Pizza40
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#64158 08/10/2006 2:47 AM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | magnmike,
I did a search and some folks say bowl down, and some say up! The pumps I remember went with the glass bowl down, this is where the gunk always collected.
Under the gasket that was mashed between the housing and bowl was a fine mesh screen...and this went up!
I thought the gasket mimicked the the shape of the pump housing AND a cast raised piece on the block.
The pump will only function with the lever in contact with the cam lobe, and this means it will only fit the RIGHT way.
You can feel the cam lobe with your finger and it will be up..or it will be down, and the lever will fit accordingly.
While the pump is out, and you give it a squeeze, it will reveal itself to you! It sucks on one side and pushes on the other.
I would think the last thing on my list would be any thought it was defective...it does happen, but not as often as the other snafu's.
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#64159 08/10/2006 4:07 AM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 50 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 50 | Thanks everyone. Stuart, I believe I'll take the pump off and test the suction and feel for the cam lever to be sure. Now that I've thought about it, I am sure I put this pump in with the lever pointing up which was the same as the orignal (non-glass bowl type). I would also think it wouldn't pull the gas into the bowl if it was inserted the wrong direction. That's why I'm leaning towards it being defective as it is 1/2 doing it's job!!
If it is found to be failing to blow air out ont he outlet side, I'm going to try the $20 NAPA version as a test.
1951 Chevy 3100 w/235
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#64160 08/10/2006 4:14 AM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Glass bowl is up on 1954 235/261 engines. I will check photos on 1949/50 engines on Friday, if someone does not post 216 information by then. | | |
#64161 08/10/2006 4:19 AM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | magnmike,
I am pretty sure it goes with the lever up too. I just looked at a old Chevrolet book and it shows the glass bowl pointing up...who knows!
It wouldn't hurt to fill a small bucket with water and submerge the pump. While it is underwater, pump the lever and it should shoot a very good stream...out of the discharge hole. Good luck.
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#64162 08/10/2006 12:54 PM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 50 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 50 | tcledermen, I have a 1951 3100 truck with a 235 engine. I believe the engine is a 54 or 56. Thanks for the pic!
1951 Chevy 3100 w/235
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#64163 08/11/2006 2:13 AM | Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 483 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 483 | Pump goes with glass bowl up...Insure lever is onthe correct position to the cam.. | | |
#64164 08/11/2006 3:08 AM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 50 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 50 | Ok guys...Good news is that I had the pump in correct. Dumb news.... after buying another fuel pump today, I realized it still wasn't pulling enough gas. My father-in-law said, "Sure you got gas in the tank?" Well, sure enough there wasn't much. Amazing what a full tank will do. After 1 year of off and on work to get her going, she cranked up beautifully today!!! Even though I felt like a dope today, I also feel great because I've been doing the work myself to get her running. You guys have been a big help along the way as I've encountered setbacks with various items. Thanks for the help. Look for me to continue asking for advice.
1951 Chevy 3100 w/235
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#64165 08/11/2006 4:06 AM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,029 Member | | Member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,029 | Thank you for the update. You are certainly not the first to forget the fuel level on an ongoing project. Congratulations. | | |
#64166 08/11/2006 7:35 PM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | Glad you got it figured out. Lesson learned, check the easy, simple stuff first. 
Save a life, adopt a senior shelter pet. The three main causes of blindness: Cataracts, Politics, Religion. Name your dog Naked so you can walk Naked in the park.
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