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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,388 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,388 | Thats the question. I NEED to put my porta walls on my wheels. No, its not on the truck, its on my Pontiac. I have a set of portawalls for the car, but need to use tubes I think. The local tire shop says I can't, because my radials will chew the tubes up. They say that they can mount them without using tubes, they assure me they've done this before.... Now, how does the tire seal against the wheel, with the portawall jammed down there? I thought these had to use tubes.
Anyone have some experience with this stuff here? | | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | I have only heard what you have said. Maybe you need a set of bead lockers. LOL | | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | You can get special tubes for radial tires. It's been many years but it seems we used to put porto-walls on with tubeless tires. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,095 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,095 | i have tubes in my Michelin x tires and they have been in there since august of 1969 yes 69 and no problem except one went flat last year and i put a new tube in.
Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,002 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,002 | Many years ago I time and distanced rallied. Radial tubes were required in all tires. It was considered a safety issue. IIRC the radial tubes were a bit more expensive.
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I don't own a vehicle that isn't old enough to drink. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 90 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 90 | Check with Coker Tire in Chattanooga Tenn, they can advise you and of course sell you what will work best.
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Terry | | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 | I'm running a set of Port-a-walls on my tubeless tires with no tubes. Been on there for 3 years with no problems whatsoever. The port-a-wall mounting lip gives an air-tight seal between the tire bead and the rim. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,963 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,963 | Port-a-walls will work if you have rims with a wide enough sealing area. Most manufacturers went to a wider wheel designed for tubeless tires in about 1957. The earlier rims were not really designed for tubeless tires and with Port-a-walls it becomes even a greater risk. Port-a-walls were the big thing when I was in high school. If you have the older rims, I would recommend a tube designed for a radial tire. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,388 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,388 | Well, I guess I'll take them to the tire shop in the next week or so. I always seem to have bad luck when I break down and hire something out.
Thanks. | | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | "Radial tubes" are meant to be used in tube type radial tires, not in tubeless tires. I have personally seen what happens when a tube is put in a tubeless tire, especially when they are run a highway speeds. The friction between the tube ans tire inner liner causes exsessive heat, which leads to sidewall and tube failure, usually within 100 miles at highway speeds. It should also be noted that with current DOT regulations, it is illegal to install tubes in tubless tires. That is why most tire shops (including the one I work at) will not do it.
Bill Burmeister | | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,095 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,095 | i have driven my mga with radials and tubes on the indy 500 track at over 90mph and no tube. the trip down and back was ove a 100 miles at highway speeds. just my opinion. ron
Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 637 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 637 | I put tubes (a special type tube made by Michelin) in Michelin tires in 1962, they worked fine, ran over 100,000 miles on the rear of a Corvair sedan. I was told the tubes had an especially wide lap joint because of the constant flexing of the radial tires. Never any trouble, flat, or even pressure loss. | | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | I would say in both cases, the tires were tube type radials, in which case a tube would be fine. However, in a modern tubless tire, installing a tube in it is asking for tire failure. I've seen it too many times. As I stated, it is illegal by DOT regulations to install a tube in a tubless tire.
Bill Burmeister | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | Comments from Lucas Tire Company who are again stocking these items;
Portawalls, sometimes called slap-ons, Mickies, fake white walls, etc, available in a variety of wheel sizes and widths were originally designed to work on bias ply tires some 50 years ago, not today's radials. Bias tires have a flat rigid sidewall, and a much higher profile (aspect ratio) than radial tires. There is a lesser likelihood of them adhering properly to a radial because of the radius and flexibility of it's sidewall. The lower the profile of a radial, the less likely you will be pleased with the results. Larger radials with a 75 profile seem to work fairly well, but we do not recommend trying them on many of today's popular 60 profiles and smaller. For radials, we suggest the narrower widths, so they won't extend beyond the radius of the sidewall.
Installation is critical and the sidewalls have to be extremely clean to increase your success rate. We recommend a de-greasing agent, not a solvent be used to wipe between the tire and the rim to ensure that the area is very clean. DO NOT use a soapy compound, or the portawalls will slip out during re-inflation. Further success may be achieved by keeping radial tires at maximum allowable inflation and with the use of inner tubes to firm up the sidewalls so they don't flex so much.
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