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#39893 01/03/2005 9:44 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 510 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 510 | Since I've never dug into the guts of my 64's 292, I'm wondering about the timing gear....I'm also wondering cuz it won't start. It has gas to the carb, which leaves spark and compression. (as a general rule.)
Anyway, I'll go out in the cold and recheck to see if the distributor's turning in a bit...and that should tell me if the timing gear's gone. And if it does turn, I spose that leaves the HEI module, the pickup coil in the distributor and the coil..and of course I spose I otta make sure that I have power to the distributor.
But on the timing gear thing. Did the 292s use the fiber gears like the 230s and 250s? Do they have a habit of shearing teeth off in cold weather like some other fiber gears I've run into?
I can't say that I'm crazy about the idea of havin to replace the gear (I spose I'd do the water pump at the same time) in the middle of winter...but I spose we does what we has to.
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#39894 01/03/2005 11:25 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | It,s very unlikely to be the timing gears. The cam gear is aluminum & they are very tough. I take it you have HEI. Its, probably the module & it is the easiest to replace. If not it may be the pickup coil. You have to pull the dist. to replace it.  They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
#39895 01/03/2005 11:30 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 510 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 510 | The info about the cam gear is REAL good stuff to know. Thank you.
Yes, I have an HEI distributor (with about 2000 miles since I installed it) and an Accel Supercoil. I agree...it could very well be the module...or the pickup (I hope not) or the coil or... | | |
#39896 01/04/2005 8:18 AM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 523 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 523 | Hey Ray
Put a normal dist in and jury rig a coil see if it runs
It doesn't really have to run good to tell you the HEI Thinggy is shot just start | | |
#39897 01/04/2005 5:08 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 510 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 510 | I'm not sure I still have the old points distributor. Most of the stuff I've got hangin around is smallblock V8 stuff. But I bought a module this morning and I'll slap it in there and see what happens. I'll also look around for the old dizzy and coil.
Ray (also gonna have to have the old plug wires. Hmmm..) | | |
#39898 01/04/2005 9:03 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 510 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 510 | Well, I don't have to swap dizzys. It was the module. I swapped that out in about 5 minutes (I was workin slow), jumped in the cab, pumped the gas a coupla times and it fired on the first crank.
YAY!!!
So the ol' Ugly Truck is on the road again...now all I have to do is get it past the state safety inspection and pay the ransom for another year's tags. | | |
#39899 01/04/2005 9:54 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,742 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,742 | Now, do yourself a favor and pitch that Accel coil as far as you can throw it (preferrably into a river) before you burn out another module. The primary winding resistance of the hotrod coil is so low it acts like a dead short on coil turn-on, and fries the power transistors. The stock coil develops at least 50,000 volts, and a good clean spark plug only needs 10,000 V. to fire it. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
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#39900 01/05/2005 3:31 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 510 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 510 | I'd love to run a stock coil. But I can't find a coil cover. I didn't spend a lotta time searching in junkyards, but none of the parts houses I checked had one.
However, if the winding resistance is that low, maybe I better look harder. | | |
#39901 01/05/2005 5:48 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,742 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,742 | The original-equipment Delco module has a current limiter built in that will last a little longer with a low-resistance coil, but even those will be a short-life situation. A lot of the aftermarket modules, even the high-quality ones like Blue Streak, don't have the limiter circuitry, and they will over-current and overheat.
The coil cover won't be available in the average parts store, but you might find one at an AC-Delco parts distributor. Good luck! Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
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#39902 01/05/2005 8:35 PM | Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 175 Member | | Member Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 175 | This is why breaker point ignition will live forever and ever Amen!!! Boo
We don't need no stinking V-8s!!
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